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***Wolfpack*** · 02-19-2011, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chicowalker

From everything I've hard, across states (and countries), men generally get screwed on various divorce / custody rules and rulings. Granted, that's usually from the perspective of other men.

Everything you say is 100% right on and let me tell you why: For all the feminist bullcrap agenda where they claim they want equality, there remain a great many areas where they simply don't want equality. If anything, they do everything they can to maintain the unfair status quo.

***IcyPatriot*** · 02-19-2011, 04:09 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxNEiZhpinY

shirtsleeve · 02-19-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by IcyPatriot

YouTube - Eric Burdon - The Animals - We Gotta Get Out Of This Place

BOC did it better!

***Patters*** · 02-19-2011, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shirtsleeve

This is where you miss the point. Divorce is financially devastating. The amount I pay out of my gross income leaves me below the poverty line in take home pay, yet I gross well into middle class wages. Like Icy said. Disregarding my ex-wive's status, its clear that this is a formula for disaster. You seem to try to look at the family as one unit, but it no longer is. Its two units, each needing all of the food, clothing, shelter heat and utilities to survive. But the IRS, the court (and you) are still trying to treat this as one unit. Its illogical and this is really whats unfair. Over a million deadbeats in Mass must tell ya something. Let us deduct our child support from our income. That would fairly reflect the dual household situation that exists and would allow for a lot of current and future deadbeats to not be any longer. This would free so many of the child's units from the system and poverty.

I really do see your point, but I'm not sure of your solution. At any rate, there is no way you should be forced below the poverty line (and I'd use a liberal definition of poverty line, not the $10 or $12k that the conservative use), and it seems to me that a formula that does not take that into account is unjust. In other words, overall I agree with you, but am less sure if a tax deduction is the right approach.

chicowalker · 02-19-2011, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack

Everything you say is 100% right on and let me tell you why: For all the feminist bullcrap agenda where they claim they want equality, there remain a great many areas where they simply don't want equality. If anything, they do everything they can to maintain the unfair status quo.

I don't think it's just women, though -- plenty of men perpetuate it as well, and I'm sure that spans party lines. I have little doubt there are plenty of Republican men and women who, just like they pretend to put the "family" first in other things, also default to the mother when it comes to these issues.

As for women wanting equality, I know there are plenty of women who don't really want everything to be equal -- but on policy matters, I don't think that makes them any different from the many other people who put self-interest over principle.

***DarrylS*** · 02-20-2011, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by reflexblue

If they're going to school your suppose to pay until the graduate ..22 years old. And i would have but the two living at home decided to quit school and work full time. I refused to support their life style.

When my son graduated from HS and hit 18 years old, just stopped paying child support, my ex had more than sufficient means and he was working full time.. if she brought me back to court would have been a crapshoot.

The one thing her atty. forgot about was my pension, and that would have been a backbreaker. I have a friend and according to his divorce decree when he retires has to give his wife something like 18% of his pension, so he says he will never retire, he has been working for the state for something like 36 years now and has no plans of walking away..

When my son went back to college I did pay half, as it was the right thing to do.. never heard of anyone, either a man or women, who after a divorce ever say gee that was fair.. if you want to hear a royal bytch session hang around divorce court.

wistahpatsfan · 02-20-2011, 01:54 PM

This is why so many people stay together who shouldn't have been together in the first place. I do pretty well, my wife's a sweetheart, and I don't see it happening. If it does, she'll be paing me cuz she's much smarter and makes more money. Jokes on her!

Hey! Maybe that's why she's keeping me around!

***reflexblue*** · 02-20-2011, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DarrylS

When my son graduated from HS and hit 18 years old, just stopped paying child support, my ex had more than sufficient means and he was working full time.. if she brought me back to court would have been a crapshoot.

The one thing her atty. forgot about was my pension, and that would have been a backbreaker. I have a friend and according to his divorce decree when he retires has to give his wife something like 18% of his pension, so he says he will never retire, he has been working for the state for something like 36 years now and has no plans of walking away..

When my son went back to college I did pay half, as it was the right thing to do.. never heard of anyone, either a man or women, who after a divorce ever say gee that was fair.. if you want to hear a royal bytch session hang around divorce court.

I was talking about my ex. more thatn the two that were living at home at the time. Those kids saw very little of the money i gave her. But she enabled them to do what they did.