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The Brandon Five · 02-17-2011, 10:49 AM

Baghdad wants U.S. to pay $1 billion for damage to city | Reuters

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(Reuters) - Iraq's capital wants the United States to apologize and pay $1 billion for the damage done to the city not by bombs but by blast walls and Humvees since the U.S.-led invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein.

A blast wall is damage? Don't they prevent damage? Go sue the insurgents.

They've got balls. How do you say "****** off" in Arabic?

***DarrylS*** · 02-17-2011, 12:11 PM

Just think if we did not have a president and his merry bunch of neo cons that lied to us, then this would not be discussed..

Instead this debacle cost us over 3 trillion dollars, and they want more.

Holy Diver · 02-17-2011, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DarrylS

Just think if we did not have a president and his merry bunch of neo cons that lied to us, then this would not be discussed..

Instead this debacle cost us over 3 trillion dollars, and they want more.

Also 4000+ American soldiers.

***IcyPatriot*** · 02-17-2011, 09:02 PM

Screw them ... and screw all of them ... no payments and no more foreign aid ... none.

scout · 02-17-2011, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DarrylS

Just think if we did not have a president and his merry bunch of neo cons that lied to us, then this would not be discussed..

Instead this debacle cost us over 3 trillion dollars, and they want more.

The thing that keeps coming back to me, is this president and his merry bunch of neo cons were some of the biggest draft dodgers of the Vietnam era.
Oh yea, the intelligence that they cherry picked said Saddam had WMD's. One of the pickings was from a guy named "Curveball"!

Yea, one more thing. Last year, when people began suggesting that George W. Bush was the worst President in our history, people would defend that by saying it takes decades to evaluate a presidency. Well, one year later and it is not looking any better. My guess is, as time goes on, more damaging evidence will surface and we can circumvent the decade theory.

***IcyPatriot*** · 02-17-2011, 09:16 PM

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The thing that keeps coming back to me, is this president and his merry bunch of neo cons were some of the biggest draft dodgers of the Vietnam era.
Oh yea, the intelligence that they cherry picked said Saddam had WMD's. One of the pickings was from a guy named "Curveball"!

Yea, one more thing. Last year, when people began suggesting that George W. Bush was the worst President in our history, people would defend that by saying it takes decades to evaluate a presidency. Well, one year later and it is not looking any better. My guess is, as time goes on, more damaging evidence will surface and we can circumvent the decade theory.

Militarily what's the difference between Bush and Obama?

Bush bungled Afghanistan and Plundered Iraq.

Obama is Afghanistan redux and he also willingly lets our men be killed by the same intelligence people in Pakistan that he sends money to. Pakistan is in our pocket big time and they aid the Taliban who kill our men ... i'm missing something on that one.

So what's the difference between Obama and Bush?

***reflexblue*** · 02-17-2011, 09:20 PM

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Militarily what's the difference between Bush and Obama?

Bush bungled Afghanistan and Plundered Iraq.

Obama is Afghanistan redux and he also willingly lets our men be killed by the same intelligence people in Pakistan that he sends money to. Pakistan is in our pocket big time and they aid the Taliban who kill our men ... i'm missing something on that one.

So what's the difference between Obama and Bush?

O'bama DIDN'T Start any Wars.....get it. Bush LIED to get us in a war U-D-E-R-S-T-A-N-D??? If he hadn't Lied we won't be having this conversation, Capish?

***IcyPatriot*** · 02-17-2011, 10:42 PM

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O'bama DIDN'T Start any Wars.....get it. Bush LIED to get us in a war U-D-E-R-S-T-A-N-D??? If he hadn't Lied we won't be having this conversation, Capish?

Ummm ... we all know this.

But for anyone to think there's a difference between the two is just blocking out the obvious. Obama would not start a war like that ... but he knowingly supports a state that has a hand in killing our men. I expected more from him ... he is no different - just uses different methods is all.

Absolutely we would be having this conversation ... just not about a dumb wall.

shirtsleeve · 02-17-2011, 11:17 PM

Uggh. No one bytched when he took a $15B D of Ed and blew it up into a $90B disaster. No one bythed when he stripped us of our rights to protection from illegal search and seizure. No one bytched when he added the brutal insult of the increased medicaid burdon. Where is the outrage there?

Afghanistan was clearly at the outset a defensive war, and clearly he was in his constitutional right to do something there. Unfortunately, his prosecution of that war was a nightmare. A disaster.

Iraq, as I have stated before, was his attempt at preventing Israel from attacking them for the same terrorist threats we faced on 9/11. That was a pure error. He should have never let Sharon blackmail him like that. I posted this years ago to try to spurn the real debate here. But I ran into the same stuff I read now. Bush should have told Sharon he was on his own in Iraq, but the US would support them if it confligrated into a regional conflict. It was their war to fight. He screwed up. He did that well.

I do think of a post Israeli war in Iraq. I have no clue what that would have brought. I do think we should have found out. Its not up to us to fight everyone elses battles for them.

edit: I had no idea that bytch is a bad word here.

And as others have said, Obama has not distinguished himself in anyway here either.

***DarrylS*** · 02-18-2011, 04:43 AM

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Ummm ... we all know this.

But for anyone to think there's a difference between the two is just blocking out the obvious. Obama would not start a war like that ... but he knowingly supports a state that has a hand in killing our men. I expected more from him ... he is no different - just uses different methods is all.

Absolutely we would be having this conversation ... just not about a dumb wall.

While I agree that there is no huge difference in their views, doubt that Obama would have fabricated evidence to lead us to a war that cost us 3 trillion dollars..

Have felt all along that Afghanistan is a no win situation, and he inherited this mess.. unfortunately those who really control this country have a vested interest in perpetuating this endless war.