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A delicate situation at the moment with this obvious HUGE power vacuum. Let's hope there is genuine democratic wisdom at the core in that populace. The Muslim extremists likely are licking their chops.
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Key Findings:
•This is not an Islamic uprising. The Muslim Brotherhood is “approved” by just 15%, and its leaders get barely
1% in a presiden;al straw vote. Asked to pick na;onal priori;es, just 12% choose shariah over na;onal power,
democracy, or economic development. Asked to explain the uprising, economic condi;ons, corrup;on, and
unemployment (30‐40% each) far outpace “regime not Islamic enough” (7%).
•Surprisingly, asked two different ways about the peace treaty with Israel, more support it (37%) than oppose
it (22%). Only 18% approve of either Hamas or Iran. And a mere 5% say the uprising occurred because the
regime is “too pro‐Israel.”
•El Baradei has very li\le popular support in a presiden;al straw vote (4%), far outpaced by Amr Musa (29%)
But Mubarak and Omar Suleiman each get 18%.
•A narrow plurality (36% vs. 29%) say Egypt should have good rela;ons with the U.S. And just 8% say the
uprising is against a “too pro‐American regime.” S;ll, something over half disapprove of our handling of this
crisis and say they don’t trust the U.S. at all.
Not sure what folks wanted the US to do, we have had a history of backing crooked politicians in the mideast and to do so will only alienate us more..
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Not sure what folks wanted the US to do, we have had a history of backing crooked politicians in the mideast and to do so will only alienate us more..
Everyone keeps talking about what the US should do in Egypt to help them become democratic...
The US? Why the US? Why doesn't Israel seize the moment and make the first overtures to the Egyptian people and bring their advisors as an offering of continued peace? There may never be a better time for Israel to make this move.
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Everyone keeps talking about what the US should do in Egypt to help them become democratic...
The US? Why the US? Why doesn't Israel seize the moment and make the first overtures to the Egyptian people and bring their advisors as an offering of continued peace? There may never be a better time for Israel to make this move.
That is a really intriguing idea.
Nikolai, what are the chances of that?
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Everyone keeps talking about what the US should do in Egypt to help them become democratic...
The US? Why the US? Why doesn't Israel seize the moment and make the first overtures to the Egyptian people and bring their advisors as an offering of continued peace? There may never be a better time for Israel to make this move.
Could not agree more.. but doubt, it will happen.
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A delicate situation at the moment with this obvious HUGE power vacuum. Let's hope there is genuine democratic wisdom at the core in that populace. The Muslim extremists likely are licking their chops.
This isn't necessarily a glimpse into their future, but its interesting to read who is really organizing this whole revolution...
...In the process many have formed some unusual bonds that reflect the singularly nonideological character of the Egyptian youth revolt, which encompasses liberals, socialists and members of the Muslim Brotherhood.
“I like the Brotherhood most, and they like me,” said Sally Moore, a 32-year-old psychiatrist, a Coptic Christian and an avowed leftist and feminist of mixed Irish-Egyptian roots. “They always have a hidden agenda, we know, and you never know when power comes how they will behave. But they are very good with organizing, they are calling for a civil state just like everyone else, so let them have a political party just like everyone else — they will not win more than 10 percent, I think.”
Shirtsleeve is pretty much spot on. The time for Israel to reach out, if there ever was a time, was years ago. However, among Arabs sampled in numerous foreign polls, Egyptians hate the Israelis more than almost any other Arab nationality, and their dislike of the Israelis has only increased. The best case scenario for Egypt-Israeli relations probably involves preserving the status quo, unfortunately.
Certain elements of that WINEP poll are pretty much spot on. This isn't an Islamic uprising; the Brotherhood didn't instigate it, nor are they driving it. That doesn't mean, however, that they still couldn't wield significant influence on a new government, if one is forthcoming. I disagree with the notion that the Brotherhood has such little support among Egyptians; that's simply untrue. Of course, I would definitely contend with the poll's findings regarding the Egyptian opinion of Israel.
Moussa, unsurprisingly, leads the opinion polls for the next president, but Mubarak is #2. El-Baradei, the darling of the US media, languishes near the bottom, which is reflective of his popularity in Egypt. I'm glad that much is being put out there. He is not the answer to the power vacuum in Egypt.
I disagree that this poll is representative. Only 343 people being polled does not give sufficient data for a nation with a population of around 80 million people. Further complicating the issue is that it is a phone poll, meaning that a large subsection of Egyptian society that does not have landlines or mobile phones were no represented in this poll. What you're seeing here is a snapshot of the upper middle class here (as it happens, many of these views have been generally associated with the upper middle class), not necessarily an accurate view of the perceptions of the average Egyptian.
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Everyone keeps talking about what the US should do in Egypt to help them become democratic...
The US? Why the US? Why doesn't Israel seize the moment and make the first overtures to the Egyptian people and bring their advisors as an offering of continued peace? There may never be a better time for Israel to make this move.
Good idea, Obama should jump right on this plan.
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