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Open tribal warfare in remote areas of Pakistan has the potential of scoring a major success in the War on Terror. As pointed out here at AT yesterday, indicators point to the beginning of the civil war between Taliban tribes predicted here at the American Thinker. Two prominent leaders, Taliban chiefs find themselves at bloody conflict instigated by al Qaeda operators. The fault line between al Qaeda allied Taliban and MMA/Musharraf allied Taliban has ruptured.
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The "anti-al Qaeda" Taliban tribes (and don't confuse this as friendly to the US) will find themselves in need of help. When they do, they will turn to Musharraf. He in turn will come to the US. Of course, this kind of assistance will be covert, until it shows up on the front page of the New York Times anyway.
When that happens, we get to make demands. I would not be surprised if an essential criterion for assistance will be a requirement to track down and turn over core al Qaeda leadership. If/when that happens, they may hand over Zawahiri (though I doubt we will ever get Usama bin Laden) or at least flush him out for us to get him.
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The end state I predict by the end of the year is a serious reduction of the power of the jihad block in Pakistan as it tears itself apart, a strong alliance among the democratic reformers and the military block, the serious reduction of the Afghanistan conflict (after an up tick possibly) and the capture of at least a few core al Qaeda leaders.
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Yeah, right. What a friggin' joke. Some people never get it. How long did it take the Russians to get the message before they, wisely, got their asses out of there.
It is unwinnable and we have no business there anymore, seeing as Bush said he doesnt spend much time on the original target, Bin Laden.
Quite frankly, IMO, Bush never had any intentions of getting his former business partner.
It was ALL Saddam Hussein and Iraq from BEFORE the 2000 election. Bush got his wish, no matter how many Americans died, and he is still getting his wish because there are so damned many stupid Americans, including some in here, who keep saying "finish the mission."
They just dont get it, it is a mission that has NO FINISH, and the only thing we, as a nation, will gain, is the sight of more body bags coming home filled with dead Americans.
What a bunch of ignorant people (I CHANGED THAT WORD FROM WHAT I ORIGINALLY HAD TYPED) some Americans are.
I care about one thing, and one thing only, bringing them home alive. Nothing else matters to me, and nothing else should matter to every American, including everyone in here.
Those that suggest that they need to finish the mission are fools, total fools.
What mention was made of Iraq before the 2000 election. I only recall Clinton passing the resolution calling for the overthrow of Saddam's regieme in 1998.
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
What mention was made of Iraq before the 2000 election. I only recall Clinton passing the resolution calling for the overthrow of Saddam's regieme in 1998.
NEM, are you talking about leaving Afghanistan? If so, you think its a good idea to just clear out and leave them to their own devices? You mention the Russians got smart and did just that, and what did that lead to? Oh wait, that's right, it led to the Taliban taking power and allowing Al Qaeda a safe haven to train and plan 9/11! Hmm, sounds like a great plan then! Let's pack it up and leave, especially with AQ trying to reorganize in Pakistan! I mean, come on, concern for the troops is one thing, but you advocate a policy of turn tail and run at the first casualty. If you think we were justified in going into Afghanistan in the first place you have to recognize that we can't now leave them before they can effectively defend themselves.
If you were talking about Iraq I am more understanding of your position and apologize, but if you were talking about Afghanistan I can't understand it.
patsfan I think what NEM was talking about is that fact the Iraq was a major foreign policy problem from the 1991 gulf war on. He would also probably point out that removing Saddam and exerting greater influence in the mideast was an objective of the PNAC, a policy group with a lot of influence in the Bush White House that some people (though not me) think led the administration to lie about WMDs to get into Iraq. To me they are a policy group, not the evil cadre of men pulling the strings behind the scenes that others paint them as.
patsfan I think what NEM was talking about is that fact the Iraq was a major foreign policy problem from the 1991 gulf war on. He would also probably point out that removing Saddam and exerting greater influence in the mideast was an objective of the PNAC, a policy group with a lot of influence in the Bush White House that some people (though not me) think led the administration to lie about WMDs to get into Iraq. To me they are a policy group, not the evil cadre of men pulling the strings behind the scenes that others paint them as.
Saddam should have been taken out during GWI, Bush Sr screwed the pooch on that one.
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
I am not talking about leaving Afghanistan, but we never should have pulled out trroops out of there to begin with. We had a chance to finish the job against Bin laden and didnt do it, and now we are in Bush's personal agenda in Iraq.
OK, I was confused, I thought you were talking about Afghanistan not Iraq. I should have known better!
Did we ever "pull troops out of there" when they were still needed? I don't think that was the case. I know some units went from there to Iraq, but their mission in Afghanistan was effectively over at that point, right?
Yes, I've read that before, you only posted it about 10,000 times!
You consider them an evil group that lied and cheated to achieve their goals, I see them as a neo-con think tank with influence in the administration, and there is nothing wrong with that.
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Al Qaeda on the ropes in Pakistan
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