Things that DO and DON'T get Americans upset... - Page 4 - New England Patriots Forums

PatriotsReign · 01-28-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Holy Diver

Interesting OP-ED about the global unrest, the problems in the US and how we generally are a bunch of panzies...

Frances Fox Piven and Glenn Beck: A call for protest ignites a call to arms - latimes.com

"Why are Americans such wusses? Threaten the Greeks with job losses and benefit cuts and they tie up Athens, but take away Americans' jobs, 401(k)s, even their homes, and they pretty much roll over. Tell British students that their tuition is about to go up and they take to the streets; American students just amp up their doses of Prozac."

There are all kinds of explanations for how Americans lost their grass-roots political mojo: iPods have been invoked, along with computer games and anti-depressants. And of course much of the credit goes to the so-called populist right of the Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck persuasion, which argues that the real enemy of the down-and-out is not the boss or the bank but the "liberal elite"

I'd say any nation that mandates minimum 6 week vacations and retirement at 60 are pussies...think you got it backwards.

Raise the retirement age from 60 to 62 and violence breaks out? WTF?? to me, that's a nation of wussies.

PatriotsReign · 01-28-2011, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by reflexblue

I think people driving slow in the passing lane gets Americans upset.

people should drive those sob's off the road...I hate that some people think they have a duty to slow others down by blocking traffic in the fast lane

I'm with you Flex!

PatriotsReign · 01-28-2011, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by IcyPatriot

speed is a non factor ... the left lane is supposed to be for passing only.
If a cop is in front of or behind you for enough miles you can get pulled over for it.

Something most Massachusetts residents don't know about "Speeding"

The actual law says nothing about "driving faster than the posted speed limit"...by Massachusetts law, "Speeding is driving faster than the flow of traffic so as to present a danger to others"

in other words, if you're doing 75 and flow of traffic is going 75, you can't get ticketed (legally).

Check it out, I'm not kidding.

I also bought a cheap book on how to beat speeding tickets about 10 years ago. I got 2 tickets after reading the book and beat them both. It was actually an amazing book.

Example: Never state how fast you thought you were going to the cop or to the clerk magistrate. Just say, "I was not speeding" and then ask for a trial.

If no prosecutor shows up and the judge asks you a question, ask the judge if he is going to act as both prosecutor and judge....which is illegal and the case must be dismissed.

Also, ask the police officer how he "clocked" you. Whether he say with his speedometer or with a radar gun, ask when the last time they were calibrated. If he/she gives you a date, ask for the records...if they have no records/evidence with them, ask for immediate dismissal, you'll get it!

***patsfan13*** · 01-28-2011, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Holy Diver

wow...this is pretty much the EXACT example of what our basic problem is.

none of what you wrote about is an actual problem. Since the Great depression, taxes have never been lower, (except from 1988-1992) and they have been that way for over a decade now. Raising those children who are now in 5th grade in an era of the lowest tax rates in US history has in effect been toxic to our economy. we now have a 13 trillion dollar deficit.

Our 4 trillion dollar execise in global forced democracy has seen it rise in nations whose dictatorship we support. We havent invaded a single one of the nations now under some form of revolution. Instead we build bombs, chasing ghosts.

The unsustainable pyramid scheme, I assume you mean Social Security? Which has never missed a payment in over 80 years? FAIL.

Government spending as a % of GDP is spiraling out of control. See below

Then the number of workers per retiree has declined greatly ans the baby boomers retire they will bankrupt the system of people you age will be paying > 5)% of your income to pay for my SS, doesn't make any sense.

Abortion? WTF?

50 million killed by abortion = far fewer workers to support welfare state. As the number of workers declines relative to government dependents the system goes broke.

Last year the SS system paid out more than it took in for the first time years ahead of schedule. The system will go broke.

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Not once do you mention the trillions stolen from you by wall street, bankers and bailouts. Not once do you mention defense spending (36-58% of our spending, depending on if you wish to include veterans benefits) Not once do you mention the failed policy of deregulation. Not once do you mention outsourcing labor, or our trade policies.....

Nope.

Its Taxes, Abortion, and Social Security...

roll-over....sit....STAY.

I was not in favor of bailouts and government action including the $400 rebates from Bush or any of the bailouts. OTOH I wasn't in favor of Freddie and Frannie coercing banks to make loans to people who couldn't repay them.

The welfare state and the crony capitalism state don't work.

You will run out of rich people to blame. Meanwhile people like Chu in the administration want to price of fuel to double to match the prices in Europe. Madness.

Mrs.PatsFanInVa · 01-28-2011, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by patsfan13

50 million killed by abortion = far fewer workers to support welfare state. As the number of workers declines relative to government dependents the system goes broke.

50 million where, 13? Even if you're including the entire world in your figure - and I can't imagine why you would be since we are talking about America here, not the world, you're way off in your figure.

There are approximately 42 million abortions yearly - worldwide.

1.21 million of them take place in the USA.

Abortion Statistics

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/4304111.pdf

The Brandon Five · 01-28-2011, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa

50 million where, 13? Even if you're including the entire world in your figure - and I can't imagine why you would be since we are talking about America here, not the world, you're way off in your figure.

There are approximately 42 million abortions yearly - worldwide.

1.21 million of them take place in the USA.

Abortion Statistics

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/4304111.pdf

I think he means 50 million in the U.S. since Roe v. Wade.

There were 45 million by 2005, so I'd say that 50 million is a conservative estimate for the total by the end of 2010.

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Mrs.PatsFanInVa · 01-28-2011, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Brandon Five

I think he means 50 million in the U.S. since Roe v. Wade.

Ah, ok. I'm so used to him fudging figures and just outright making things up that I'm never sure what the heck he means.

Thanks.