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patsfan13 · #11 12-23-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jack

What is the reason they are being withdrawn?

Because the surge has worked. One report out of Iraq has the number of foreign Al Queda at about 200 at this point. Combine this with the development of the Iraqi army.

patsfan13 · #12 12-23-2007, 10:14 PM

These people seeem to think this is significent:

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An expert on Islamic terrorism with the Jamestown Foundation, Steven Ulph, also said the defection of Mr. Sharif could hemorrhage support for Al Qaeda. "The important point to make, when you have the combination of a respected ideologue, plus someone who was in the field, say these things it is more important than having a Saudi sheik that moderates his message," he said.

The director of the Homeland Security Policy Institute at George Washington University, Frank Cilluffo, said, "Here you have someone with the stature and credibility, who more or less wrote the book on jihadism and is oft cited by other jihadists, making the case against it. This is someone with the heft on legal and religious grounds to make the counter argument that we can't."

Mr. Sharif, currently serving a life sentence in an undisclosed Egyptian prison, wrote in the 1980s two of the modern seminal texts for Sunni jihadism and in particular Al Qaeda, in "Fundamental Concepts Regarding Jihad" and "The Five Ground Rules for the Achieving of Victory or Its Absence." Those books are scholarly justifications, citing the Koran and Hadiths, for joining a war against Muslim apostates such as the Egyptian ruling class and for a broader jihad against the far enemy of America.

Unlike wiki these sources are named.

jack · #13 12-24-2007, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by patsfan13

Because the surge has worked.

All these troops are leaving iraq because the surge has worked? no other reason?

***Harry Boy*** · #14 12-24-2007, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jack

All these troops are leaving iraq because the surge has worked? no other reason?

The "grinning" Pelsoi gang does not want to hear this, they would rather conduct another hearing on the "Dog Leash Lady".

patsfan13 · #15 12-24-2007, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jack

All these troops are leaving iraq because the surge has worked? no other reason?

You might want to check out the transcript of Patraus's interview with C Wallace yesterday.

jack · #16 12-24-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by patsfan13

Because the surge has worked.

I asked you why 40.000 troops are being withdrawn from iraq.........And you stated above as to why....

I asked could there possibly be another reason?

So could there be?

Or is your statement truthful?

patsfan13 · #17 12-24-2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jack

I asked you why 40.000 troops are being withdrawn from iraq.........And you stated above as to why....

I asked could there possibly be another reason?

So could there be?

Or is your statement truthful?

I told you my opinion based on the stastics and what I have read. Clearly you have another opinion, why not present it?

jack · #18 12-24-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by patsfan13

I told you my opinion based on the stastics and what I have read. Clearly you have another opinion, why not present it?

In your statement the only reason troops in iraq are being withdrawn is due to the sucess of the surge!

Correct?

patsfan13 · #19 12-24-2007, 02:05 PM

I don't think they would draw down the force otherwise. I look at the decreasing number of casualities and this seems to be the logica=ial conclusion.

***Patters*** · #20 12-24-2007, 02:25 PM

I think we can surmise that things are going a lot better now than they were before, and we can hope this is a trajectory that will result in political peace, human rights, and health and prosperity at least on the level that there was under Saddam. When the country is better off than it was before we invaded, we can say we've begun to dig ourselves out of the huge of hole of failure, though the families of those who died may not see it that way. My guess is we stoked the flames of anti-Americanism for at least a generation, and less extreme groups than Al Qaeda will be able to exploit that.

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