Mrs.PatsFanInVa

Sure they do....but that only works if they're deemed, as you say, "injured in the line of duty." Many of the cops and firefighters illnesses are NOT being deemed as such.....and none of the volunteers from out-of-state or from other agencies are covered under NYC cop/firefighters insurance to begin with.

Here's a few examples for you - multiply them 1,000fold and quit being such a know-it-all when you know so little.

A 2006 medical study of fire fighters reported that those personnel who inhaled Ground Zero air essentially lost 12 years of lung function. Additionally, a Mount Sinai report found that 70 percent of recovery and rescue workers reported an increase in debilitated respiratory function between 2002 and 2004.

A 2008 report by New York City's Department of Health indicated that up to 70,000 people might have long term health problems due to the dust. The findings were the result of the city's health registry of September 11 first responders, residents, and others.

Lack of insurance
40 percent of the World Trade Center workers being monitored by a Mount Sinai Hospital study lack health insurance.

The Patrolmen's Benevolent Association of the City of New York (PBA) filed a lawsuit to secure benefits for Officer Christopher Hynes, 36. In March 2004 he was diagnosed as having sarcoidosis. However, the NYPD has refused to bestow line-of-duty injury status to him. Hynes had worked for 111 hours at Ground Zero and its vicinity. He claims that he was never given a proper respirator for his work at Ground Zero. He has had difficulty in paying medical bills because of the denial of line-of-duty status. One medical provider sued him for $3,094 for medical bills.

Hundreds of volunteer firefighters, construction workers, health professionals, clergy, and other individuals descended upon the scene in the days immediately following the attacks. These individuals volunteered directly at the Ground Zero site or cared for traumatized responders. Among individuals in the latter group, newspaper accounts have cited South Carolinian Episcopal nun, Sister Cindy Mahoney’s death as a fatality of Ground Zero illness. Mahoney spent several months attending to first responders’ spiritual needs. Two weeks prior to her death, she was cut off from her insurance. She choked to death on November 1, 2006, following five years of lung troubles.

Manuel Checo is one of many janitors that performed cleanup work who now suffer from World Trade Center cough. He spent six months at the site. Compounding janitorial workers’ troubles, three-quarters of them lack health insurance



Health effects arising from the September 11 attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

DarrylS

Every time you say something this stupid, a puppy dies.. find out the facts before you open your mouth, it is not just for the firemen and police.. read the facts of the bill.

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Real World

Apparently it would depend on who's in control of the government, and what it is exactly, that people want to make small.

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chicowalker

Not really. Both parties spend too much and both parties want more laws than we need.

patsfan13

The bill is being 'sold' as a bill for firemen and cops. Not for the residents of the area. another poster came up with one example where a first responder wasn't getting coverage.

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Mrs.PatsFanInVa

Actually, I came up with several hundred janitors, social workers and policemen who weren't getting coverage - but don't let a little thing like factual numbers get in the way.

And, just FYI, the bill is being "sold" as a "first responder" bill - which included a whole lot more than firefighters and policemen from NYC.

In fact, link me to something which says the bill is for firemen and policemen in particular, would you? Because you're wrong, 13. There's nothing that's selling this particular bill as being for anything but "all first responders" and people who either worked or lived in the direct area.

In fact, it's only you and a handful of mean-spirited Republican politicians who are trying to say it's anything different than what it is - which is care for everyone who was injured by their quick and unselfish response to an American disaster.

Here's another one for you:

Charlie Giles is dying at age 43. The 9/11 first responder believed government officials when they said the air at Ground Zero was safe. Then doctors found black fluid in his lungs — remnants of glass, concrete and bricks.

Now, the Ocean County father is on 39 medications for a litany of ailments, including lung disease and heart failure. He lost his house because he couldn’t pay his medical bills. He’s bedridden and in chronic pain.

Abandoned in their time of need: GOP blocks bill to aid first responders | NJ.com

reflexblue

13 doesn't care even though the bill was designed to pay for its self by closing some corporate tax loop holes. Since 13 worships at the alter of corporate Amerika its more important to him that people he worships aren't Hurt in any way by not being able to write off some tax's. One day 13 could be rich and powerful and he doesn't want to ruin it for himself when he gets there. Over the years 13's humanity has made me hope that one day he finds himself in a similar situation, i'll be able to hear the caterwauling all the way up here.

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DarrylS

That is why you need to be a discerning reader of many pov's, not just what Erik et al want you to think..

It may be labeled as such, but you need to find things out before you just regurgitate what the thought police want you to think..

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So basically no one in here genuinely knows what the contents of the bill are. All we know is that it's for "first responders" from 9/11, but not really for "first responsders" for 9/11, since it covers janitors too. We know it costs somewhere inside of $10 billion, which means when it's all said and done it's likely to cost twice that. Since it's got 9/11, cops, fireman, and lots of emotion mixed in, it simply has to pass. Of course the people who don't really know the specifics, are charging some other people who don't really know specifics, of not knowing what they're talking about. So does anyone really know why this bill cost $10 billion, and what it's specifically supposed to do? I'm all for helping these people, but I would like to know what's in this bill exactly.

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Ilikehappyppl

2 trillion on a stupid war....

2 trillion lost at the pentagon...

Billions for the richest Americans in tax breaks....

Giving money to help our own people with healthcare...don't have it! sorry!

God help us all.....



Edit: I think we should take the money out of all the GOP's paychecks, since they use 9/11 to get elected and use it in there ads. THEY CAN FUND IT!