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Old 12-18-2007, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: Do you think Ron Paul should try to start a third party?

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and Joe asked three times...


So did Wolf Blitzer a few days ago when they debated in Iowa. I don't think he will.


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Default Re: Do you think Ron Paul should try to start a third party?

We now have Two Party's full of lying bastard grinning sh!t bums.

Start a third party and then we will have Three Party's full of lying bastard grinning sh!t bums.

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He'd croak republicans by a landslide. He is a republican by name, for one, and he's a libertarian at heart. Liberts tend to align more with the conservative view from what I've noticed. Libertarians believe in small government and despise entitlements. Paul has too major issued the left would support him for, and that's the legalization of drugs, and the Iraq war. Thing is, do you think the people on the left would vote for someone who wants to terminate the Department of Education? He'd hurt pubs more especially since so many traditional republicans feel disgusted with their party's loss of principles. IMO anyway.
Normally that would be true yes, but it seems like some of his most ardent supporters are from the left. I mean, I don't think you're going to find a lot of 9/11 truthers out there that vote Republican. Either they are so on board with his foreign policy they don't care what else he wants to do, or they don't understand that his policy of government non-involvement extends to all things and would result in the destruction of social programs they like.

Also, saying 99.9 percent sure he's not running as a 3rd party candidate is leaving the door open for just such a run. If he really wasn't going to do it, he'd just say "No I'm not doing that." You've got to think he's energized by the outpouring of support he's getting and his fundraising successes.
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Normally that would be true yes, but it seems like some of his most ardent supporters are from the left. I mean, I don't think you're going to find a lot of 9/11 truthers out there that vote Republican. Either they are so on board with his foreign policy they don't care what else he wants to do, or they don't understand that his policy of government non-involvement extends to all things and would result in the destruction of social programs they like.

Also, saying 99.9 percent sure he's not running as a 3rd party candidate is leaving the door open for just such a run. If he really wasn't going to do it, he'd just say "No I'm not doing that." You've got to think he's energized by the outpouring of support he's getting and his fundraising successes.
If he runs as a thrid party candidate, he hurts republicans more than he does democrats, and he knows it. He might not give a ^%&@ and do it anyway, since he's more about principle than party, but he hurts them more. Again though, just my opinion.
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Ron Paul, for all his internet bulletin board appeal, couldn't start a lawnmower.

I don't think he'd even approach the appeal of either Perot or Nader. Footnote waiting to happen the moment his "voters" suddenly have to figure out what he stands for, and realize that "Hey! I really like half of what this guy stands for!!!" can quickly become "UGH! I can't stand half of what this guy says!"

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Default Re: Do you think Ron Paul should try to start a third party?

There is a definite need for a third party in this country, can you imagine a coalition gov't in congress, talk about not being able to get things done.

OTOH, as much as I like Ron Paul, not sure he is the one.. too closely aligned with the right..
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There is a definite need for a third party in this country, can you imagine a coalition gov't in congress, talk about not being able to get things done.

OTOH, as much as I like Ron Paul, not sure he is the one.. too closely aligned with the right..
What do you mean by "the right"?...Neo-cons, Bill Cosby, Buchanan , Robertson, ...lots of versions and definitions.
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The American system of government is not made for a third party or any more than two parties. Everything is predicated on "dividing the aisle" and debating mano y mano. To introduce a third element would only invite others to introduce a fourth, then a fifth, a sixth, and so forth, until we would have what there is in Europe: endless muddlingness, constant coalition forming, then disagreement, coalition break-down, new election, and back to square one, do it all over again. It is where the dumbed down effect is to move at a glacial pace on everything from the price of garlic to the building of a tunnel between two countries. Bleh-h!! America definitely doesn't need that.




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Ron Paul is, yet, another Republican phony wolf in sheep's clothing.
I agree Nem, and if I were a Republican I would never trust him, he has a sneaky little face also.

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The American system of government is not made for a third party or any more than two parties. Everything is predicated on "dividing the aisle" and debating mano y mano. To introduce a third element would only invite others to introduce a fourth, then a fifth, a sixth, and so forth, until we would have what there is in Europe: endless muddlingness, constant coalition forming, then disagreement, coalition break-down, new election, and back to square one, do it all over again. It is where the dumbed down effect is to move at a glacial pace on everything from the price of garlic to the building of a tunnel between two countries. Bleh-h!! America definitely doesn't need that.




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