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***DarrylS*** · 12-01-2010, 05:09 AM

This is a biased source, but there is not a lot out there reporting this continued fraud and theft in Afghanistan.. they are more concerned with what Hillary says.

Maybe this batch of Wikileaks does have some merit..

All the while the Defense Contractors continue to defraud and steal, and in Afghanistan we just give it away...

There was the familiary cry of out of control government spending in the recent election and the effort to stop funding for a few "chump change" beneficiaries.. but for the billions wasted in Afghanistan there is no outcry or protest.

Prepare for attacking the source, without vetting the information which is from the wikileaks information just released..

Billions Down The Drain In Afghanistan

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When Afghanistan's vice president visited the United Arab Emirates last year, local authorities working with the Drug Enforcement Administration discovered that he was carrying $52 million in cash. With wry understatement, a cable from the American Embassy in Kabul called the money "a significant amount" that the official, Ahmed Zia Massoud, "was ultimately allowed to keep without revealing the money's origin or destination." (Mr. Massoud denies taking any money out of Afghanistan.)

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Yes, that's "a significant amount" of money by normal standards. But by Afghan standards, it's actually small change. The U.S. is spending more than $2 billion a week in a country with a gross domestic product of about $14 billion a year-- and a lot of it isn't going where it's supposed to. Here is a look at some other examples of the vast waste of U.S. taxpayer money in Afghanistan.

***DarrylS*** · 12-01-2010, 02:40 PM

Confirms my contention that people are resolved to the waste in Afghanistan, but would rather focus on the out of control spending that relates to Smithsonian, PBS.. all the while none of this makes any sense.

Nothing to see here folks, we have become completely desensitized to the fraud perpetuated by this war and its players..

Sure the right will want to defund something else soon..

Titus Pullo · 12-01-2010, 03:06 PM

I'm not sure the $2 billion per week is an accurate figure, but I am convinced the real reasons we're occupying that country are not being openly conveyed in the U.S. media. - nefarious profits from natural resources:

1) control of the opium trade
2) gas/oil pipelines from the Caspian basin

***Harry Boy*** · 12-01-2010, 03:30 PM

Young Americans dying over there but suddenly America's "War Protesters" are dead silent.

More die under Obama than Bush and still nothing from the left wing anti war people.

"Get Bush" thats all they were interested in, phony bastards.

More U.S. troops die in Afghanistan under Obama than under Bush

***DarrylS*** · 12-01-2010, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Boy

Young Americans dying over there but suddenly America's "War Protesters" are dead silent.

More die under Obama than Bush and still nothing from the left wing anti war people.

"Get Bush" thats all they were interested in, phony bastards.

More U.S. troops die in Afghanistan under Obama than under Bush

The only phony here is you, as every day you politicize the dead soldiers and belittle their families, under the disguise of some type of jealousy because the anti war movement is dead.

Come up with something besides polilticizing dead warriors.. it is getting pretty tired.

***Harry Boy*** · 12-01-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DarrylS

The only phony here is you, as every day you politicize the dead soldiers and belittle their families, under the disguise of some type of jealousy because the anti war movement is dead.

Come up with something besides polilticizing dead warriors.. it is getting pretty tired.

Why aren't they still protesting the wars, they're the same wars........

***DarrylS*** · 12-01-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Boy

Why aren't they still protesting the wars, they're the same wars........

If you have to ask this idiotic question, you would never understand.

Every day you want to make dead warriors into some type of political footballs, in some very weird effort to denigrate Obama and praise Bush..

Give it a break, I guess it is ok for the US to continue to spend money in Afghanistan...

If you want to do something about the war, send a message to Ms. Collins and Snowe, or maybe for you it is better to just whine and say the same thing day after day.. if you are that concerned do something more than politicizing dead soldiers..

***DarrylS*** · 12-03-2010, 06:46 AM

Not this clusterf...ck is as important than a chump change issue in the pentagon or PBS.. but these Wikileaks cables are revealing..

The thought police will not allow this to be on Fox News or the Washington Times, bytch all you want the the NY Times is reporting it..

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/03/wo...er=rss&emc=rss

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WASHINGTON — From hundreds of diplomatic cables, Afghanistan emerges as a looking-glass land where bribery, extortion and embezzlement are the norm and the honest man is a distinct outlier.

One Afghan official helpfully explained to diplomats the “four stages” at which his colleagues skimmed money from American development projects: “When contractors bid on a project, at application for building permits, during construction, and at the ribbon-cutting ceremony.” In a seeming victory against corruption, Abdul Ahad Sahibi, the mayor of Kabul, received a four-year prison sentence last year for “massive embezzlement.” But a cable from the embassy told a very different story: Mr. Sahibi was a victim of “kangaroo court justice,” it said, in what appeared to be retribution for his attempt to halt a corrupt land-distribution scheme.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/03/wo...er=rss&emc=rss

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WASHINGTON — Oman’s foreign minister says that he is “losing confidence” in him. A British diplomat says Britain feels “deep frustration” with him, while an Australian official complains that he “ignores reality.” A diplomat from the United Arab Emirates says Afghanistan would be better off without him. NATO’s secretary general speculates that he has a split personality.

But a different man emerges in the later cables. To be certain, Mr. Karzai was presiding over a country riven by tribal tensions, a growing insurgency, warring politicians and a populace increasingly suspicious of the American troops on their soil. Still, his American and NATO critics perhaps were reflecting both disappointment in the progress of the war against the Taliban and indignation that the man they put in charge was no longer toeing the line.

***Harry Boy*** · 12-03-2010, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DarrylS

The only phony here is you, as every day you politicize the dead soldiers and belittle their families, under the disguise of some type of jealousy because the anti war movement is dead.

Come up with something besides polilticizing dead warriors.. it is getting pretty tired.

Remember how the Left Wing Media, The Democrats and Hollywood politicized the dead soldiers and their families during the Bush Years, the same wars are going on and sodiers are still dying but the phony left wing is dead silent, the reason, they don't want to make their Little Poster Boy President look like the Politician Clown that he really is, these are Obama's wars now so his a$s kissers are all silent.

PHONY'S HATERS HYPOCRITS DOUBLE STANDARD BASTARDS

***DarrylS*** · 12-03-2010, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Harry Boy

Remember how the Left Wing Media, The Democrats and Hollywood politicized the dead soldiers and their families during the Bush Years, the same wars are going on and sodiers are still dying but the phony left wing is dead silent, the reason, they don't want to make their Little Poster Boy President look like the Politician Clown that he really is, these are Obama's wars now so his a$s kissers are all silent.

PHONY'S HATERS HYPOCRITS DOUBLE STANDARD BASTARDS

You were one of the baztards who supported Bush, and now you are angry because Hollywood is not angry and protesting..

Are you angry at the Hollywood folks or are you angry at the Hollywood Wife Swappers?? Why don't you make your feeling known in a public setting , instead of on an anonymous internet message board.