wistahpatsfan

for Tea Party winners in the upcoming Congress to show that they're just another bunch of lazy, money-grubbing hypocrits.

Jokes on you, America!

Ha- ha!...


WASHINGTON — — A question about health benefits, posed by Representative-elect Andy Harris during a private orientation session for new House members, blew up Tuesday into the first mini-flap of the Maryland Republican's budding Washington career.

During a briefing Monday on employee benefits for new congressmen, staff aides and family members, Harris wanted to know why he would have to wait a month for his new health insurance coverage to start.

This is the only employer I've ever worked for where you don't get coverage the first day you are employed," Harris said, according to his spokeswoman, Anna Nix. She was quoted by Politico, the Capitol Hill newspaper that broke the story...


Rep.-elect Andy Harris: Rep. Andrew Harris embarrassed by orientation question - baltimoresun.com

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Holy Diver

I doubt this guy knows how dumb he is.

"I'll fight to repeal Gov't run healthcare, but want my Gov't run healthcare from day 1!"

Any Senator or Rep who is against Gov't run healthcare should be required to opt out, and get their own.

The line starts behind Mr. Andy Harris.

Real World

I think his point went over everyone's head. Where is this government run HC? It's employer provided HC (one that has exempted itself from the wonderful HC bill that was passed). His point was that with his government job, he has to wait for coverage, while with his private job at John Hopkins, he got it from day 1. The problem with his point, is that even in the private sector most employers have a grace, or waiting period, much like the government does here. So while his point went over everyone's head, he didn't do his homework either. He took his own personal experience at his employer, and assumed it was that way everywhere, when it's not. So both parties look foolish in the end. The people who didn't get it, as well as the congressman who didn't do his homework.

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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
Leo Tolstoy, 1897

Holy Diver

Exactly.

MOST people have to wait for what is known as "Open Enrollment". Where a healthcare 'provider' gives all employees a 2 week window to sign up or forgo healthcare until the next period.


The average new employee waits approx 3 months for coverage.


Since he campaigned on repealing publicly funded healthcare, he should get his own. He should also never accept medicare...ever. Walk the Walk.


His point is pointless. It shows just how much this guy knows about the average worker.....

Real World

He is getting his own, from his employer.

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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
Leo Tolstoy, 1897

Holy Diver

Oh I know he is.....WE get to pay for his insurance. WE are his employer.

He is in the odd position to be complaining about not getting the very thing he opposes fast enough. He is OPPOSED to government run healthcare, wants to repeal it. Since his job only offers such a plan, maybe he should opt out, and pay for it himself. Take a stand!

Nobody forced him to run for representative.

nobody is forcing him to take the governement run care he is b!tching about not having for 30 days.

we elected more than a few of these people to congress.....

Mrs.PatsFanInVa

He also gets to share in the cost since government insurance is also paid for through payroll deductions on the employee's part, as well.

Be that as it may, he is, at the least, being pretty cold-hearted and obtuse. Does he not "get it" that all people are just like he is? They want, they need, health insurance. Even the people with pre-existing conditions who will, once again, be denied what he possesses if health care reform is repealed have the same wants he has. People who work for employers who've gotten away with not providing health care insurance will once again be denied insurance if health care reform is repealed.

"He" doesn't want to wait 30 days but by repealing health care reform he wants to make sure that other people, once again, will have to wait forever.

Real World

That's not so. This is what I mean by people who don't quite get it. The man is an employee recieving an employer benefit. Just like he would at UPS, or say Morgan Stanley. What he opposes is Uncle Sam controlling care for the general public, be it by mandating you buy coverage, or by giving it to anyone with a hand out, all while we the taxpayer foot the bill. Working, and recieving a benefit as a part of that employment, is not the same thing.

If Obamacare is so good, how come government employees are exempt? I think we all know the answer to that.

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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
Leo Tolstoy, 1897

Mrs.PatsFanInVa

Would you care to explain just what you mean by that? How are government employees exempt? How are they affected any less than, say, an employee of Apple or a bank employee or a Fortune 500 employee?

Real World

This is another logical fail. Those who want ObamaCare repealed, including myself, want genuine reform. The opposition is to this specific bill. The notion that we shouldn't repeal a horrendous bill, because some people might lose coverage, is foolish. If a bill sucks, it sucks. I think the vast majority of people want everyone with pre-existing conditions to be covered. I know I want them to be. What I know I don't want is this bill to survive, because it's both an albatross, and a path to single payer. My general idea for reform would include a sort of public option, but one where the provisions are extremely basic, and care is rationed. The point being, that if you want someone else to provide you with health coverage, then you're going to take what they give you. That means you can't get Viagra, or some mood enhancement meds cuz you feel lonely. You have access to only generic meds, and basic care. While that may sound cruel, it's superior to what we have now, or had a year ago. It's a means to cover everyone, keep costs down, and encourage people to pay for their own coverage, since the gubmit coverage is limited. Why should we, as in the taxapyer, pay for some deadbeat to get great care? The answer is we shouldn't. This would be a part of what would need to be done. Oh, and anyone recieving government provided, taxpayer funded care, would wave their right to suing for malpractice.

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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
Leo Tolstoy, 1897