STFarmy

Though I know most here may laugh at Buchanan and consider him an extremist loon (which I would agree on), it sounds like his new book might make some good points. Not sure how long this link will last, but I will update it if it goes dead.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash9pb.htm

Real World

He's a nutjob, but underneath his doomsday rhetoric, is a simple truth about how screwed this country currently is. I'm not a doomsday type of person, and quite honestly, I just never think things are as bad, nor as good, as some people will try to lead you to believe. However, that doesn't mean there isn't validity in the essence of their message. The bottom line is that Buchanan is a nut, but he's generally right about this country being flushed down a ***** riddled toilet.

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Harry Boy

Buchanan:
He can't be any nuttier than some of those Grinning Mother Fu$%#^s that want to be President.

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PressCoverage

just curious... do you believe Peak Oil is a myth?

or, do you believe it's happening, but that the planet will switch over to something else viable in time before social anarchy takes place?

Real World

A myth in what sense? Do I think the supply of oil is infinite? No. Do I think we've tapped the planet dry, and from this moment on we're going to run out? No again. I think we will eventually reach a point of no return, and that finding an alternative source for oil is in everyone's best interest. I just don't subscribe to the doomsday fodder though. I know that the current area's where drilling has been prominent, have had issues with respect to return. Some taps are drying out with respect to what they were producing 5, 10, 20+ years ago. Mexico has had this problem. The thing is, we haven't really looked in other places, like off of our own shores. There is allegedly a huge amount of resources off of our coasts, but we're not allowed to go near it. I know off of Cuba they had a big find, and more recently off of the coast of Brazil they found a large deposit. Still though, at some point it will run out, although right now I'd only say it's harder to get access. I think we should make finding an alternative to oil and gas a matter of national security. My hope rests in hydrogen fuel cells, and maybe in 10 or so years we might begin to see that happen.

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STFarmy

And I think to seriously do something like that would take an innovator and someone not afraid to take chances. Looking at the current field, only the fringe guys like Kucinich and Paul strike me as guys willing to do stuff like that. And the prospect of either one of them being president is unsettling to me. What a weird weird spot we're in.

PressCoverage

interesting... i pray you're correct... i would like to start a thread about this, actually... and no one can stop me!!!

reflexblue

I listen to Pat all the time,after all the guys everywhere as far as political talk shows go and agree with him quite often. Ever once in a while he'll make no sense,but thats only every so often. As far as his book goes I read the excerps listed on the Drudge report and AGREE with virtually all of the. I thought while reading them that he was spot on in his assesment. Pats an old time Republican conservative. And if you guys think he's crazy maybe that says a lot about you.

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PressCoverage

you gotta admit, he's pretty much paranoid about the Jews concerning everything...

Real World

I agree completely. After 9/11 I'd have looked into funding research for alternative fuels, and would have set aside a massive amount of cash to change the infrastructure of our current fueling system. That's one of the bigger issues with moving away from oil and gas, the infrastructure. It would have taken billions and billions of dollars, but consider what we've spent in Iraq in comparrison. I think hydrogen in somewhere near 10 years from seeing the public market. From there it will be a question of affordability, and performance. It's taken hybrids a while to gain favor, and they still lag in sales versus regular vehicles, so who knows what will happen. I know that $3 gas speeds up the process of finding out.

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Leo Tolstoy, 1897