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Re: Michigan Woman Faces Civil Rights Complaint for Seeking a Christian Roommate
I agree, though, that this is pretty dumb. Whomever reported this probably like the loser in my townhouse development who always calls to have cars towed. Get a life.
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Re: Michigan Woman Faces Civil Rights Complaint for Seeking a Christian Roommate
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Originally Posted by Wolfpack
The laws do not apply the same to an individual seeking a roomate as they would to, say, an apartment complex renting out 150 rooms.
I thought that was common knowledge?
Actually, they do.
To wit, section 3604(c) of the Federal Fair Housing Act:
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(c) To make, print, or publish, or cause to be made, printed, or published any notice, statement, or advertisement, with respect to the sale or rental of a dwelling that indicates any preference, limitation, or discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status, or national origin, or an intention to make any such preference, limitation, or discrimination.
Generally when you attempt snark, it's a good idea to know what you're talking about.
Last edited by JackBauer; 10-25-2010 at 04:09 PM..
Re: Michigan Woman Faces Civil Rights Complaint for Seeking a Christian Roommate
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Originally Posted by JackBauer
Actually, they do.
Actually they don't. According to your own logic, she shouldn't be allowed to request a female roommate and has to allow men the chance to live with her. You should read the actual article that the OP referenced:
"She is not prohibited by either federal law or state law from seeking a Christian roommate," he states in the letter as he cites the 1968 U.S. Fair Housing Civil Rights Act and the Elliot Larsen Civil Rights Act.
"To the extent either law is applied against her to interfere with her right to live with a Christian roommate, such action would be in blatant violation of her First Amendment rights to freedom of association," Oster contends.
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Originally Posted by JackBauer
Generally when you attempt snark, it's a good idea to know what you're talking about.
I agree, and yet you continue to make a fool of yourself time and again.
Re: Michigan Woman Faces Civil Rights Complaint for Seeking a Christian Roommate
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Originally Posted by Real World
Lord knows (pun intended) that this was meant as a form of discrimination. Consider the logic here. If you're a woman, looking for a female roomate, it would be discriminatory to say so when you're looking for one.
No, your article says this about shared living space and gender.
noting that there are exemptions in the law for gender when there is a shared living space.
Re: Michigan Woman Faces Civil Rights Complaint for Seeking a Christian Roommate
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Originally Posted by Wolfpack
Actually they don't. According to your own logic, she shouldn't be allowed to request a female roommate and has to allow men the chance to live with her.
No, according to the article posted it says that there are exceptions for gender when the living space is shared.
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You should read the actual article that the OP referenced:
Yes, you should....if you had, you'd have read the above quote about exceptions for gender.
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"She is not prohibited by either federal law or state law from seeking a Christian roommate," he states in the letter as he cites the 1968 U.S. Fair Housing Civil Rights Act and the Elliot Larsen Civil Rights Act.
"To the extent either law is applied against her to interfere with her right to live with a Christian roommate, such action would be in blatant violation of her First Amendment rights to freedom of association," Oster contends.
Yep, that's what her lawyer is claiming, alright. However, that's not what the courts have decided in this particular case, is it?
Why not wait and see if he's got the winning hand or the people who filed the lawsuit do?
Re: Michigan Woman Faces Civil Rights Complaint for Seeking a Christian Roommate
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Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa
No, your article says this about shared living space and gender.
noting that there are exemptions in the law for gender when there is a shared living space.
Ah, so that clears thing up. You can't discriminate - unless you want to discriminate against men. Got'cha.
This is just a losing case for any civil rights commission because they don't have the law (or common sense) on their side. If anyone disagrees with me, I will gladly place a gentleman's wager on how this case turns out.
Re: Michigan Woman Faces Civil Rights Complaint for Seeking a Christian Roommate
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Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa
Why not wait and see if he's got the winning hand or the people who filed the lawsuit do?
Well you read my mind! I just made a post suggesting the same thing ( the "gentleman's wager").
Of course, I don't expect this will ever make it to an actual courtroom. This is the sort of thing where once the public hears about the absurd lawsuit being contemplated, the MI Dept of Civil Rights will meekly back down.
Re: Michigan Woman Faces Civil Rights Complaint for Seeking a Christian Roommate
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Originally Posted by Wolfpack
Actually they don't. According to your own logic, she shouldn't be allowed to request a female roommate and has to allow men the chance to live with her. You should read the actual article that the OP referenced:
"She is not prohibited by either federal law or state law from seeking a Christian roommate," he states in the letter as he cites the 1968 U.S. Fair Housing Civil Rights Act and the Elliot Larsen Civil Rights Act.
"To the extent either law is applied against her to interfere with her right to live with a Christian roommate, such action would be in blatant violation of her First Amendment rights to freedom of association," Oster contends.
Did you even read the statute? Methinks not.
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Originally Posted by Wolfpack
I agree, and yet you continue to make a fool of yourself time and again.
Yep, okay. Keep telling us how the Constitution doesn't apply to non-citizens, Einstein. Regardless of the numerous times you've beclowned yourself in the past, what you stated here:
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Originally Posted by Wolfpack
The laws do not apply the same to an individual seeking a roomate (sic) as they would to, say, an apartment complex renting out 150 rooms.
I thought that was common knowledge?
...is plainly incorrect. You like to talk tough but at the end of the day, as usual, you really don't know diddly.
Last edited by JackBauer; 10-25-2010 at 04:29 PM..
Re: Michigan Woman Faces Civil Rights Complaint for Seeking a Christian Roommate
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Originally Posted by Wolfpack
Ah, so that clears thing up. You can't discriminate - unless you want to discriminate against men. Got'cha.
The exception to the law applies equally to males or females, WP. It does not discriminate against men - or women. It merely says that if there is shared living space you can, legally, specify that the living space is to be shared by members of the same sex.