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***IcyPatriot*** · 10-18-2010, 09:52 PM

Yes ... I used the word pimps ... I also wanted to use the word HO's but got to respect the forum a bit.

Here is a great article in few words explaining why the change of guard means nothing. This country simply needs some astute belt tightening with a long term plan to better solvency. Less waste and less payments to foreign countries including no wars would be a great improvement ...

Would be nice to have some moderation in DC ... the sine wave is killing us.

anyways here's the bit:

Why The GOP Will Never Cut The Size Of Government - Rick Ungar - The Policy Page - Forbes

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The GOP victory likely to be experienced on November 2nd will not only represent the ultimate success of the Tea Party movement, it will also mark the beginning of the end for the well organized anger fest destined to propel a new crop of small government populists into office.

The end will come not with a bang but with the stark realization that the desires that gave rise to this new class of right leaning politicians and allowed them to ride a wave of lower deficits, budget cuts and small government into cushy federal jobs, were not what the people really want after all

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As Republicans and conservatives have scrambled to rally the support of the Tea Party movement, many have failed to take notice of some of the important inconsistencies implicit in the Tea Party message. A recent New York Times/CBS poll reveals some interesting information about the movement and its fundamental “principles.”

According to this poll, 91% of Tea Partiers want a smaller government with fewer services. Despite this hostility to big government, 62% of Tea Partiers believe that Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are worth the cost (apparently no one bothered to tell them that Social Security and Medicare are evil Godless socialist programs).

khayos · 10-18-2010, 10:13 PM

I'm so sick of hearing this crap. My district, in Massachusetts, is going conservative. You can tout all this tea partiers are shill BS but I know the folks here and they're descended from the pilgrims and ready to do what's right.

***IcyPatriot*** · 10-18-2010, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by khayos

I'm so sick of hearing this crap. My district, in Massachusetts, is going conservative. You can tout all this tea partiers are shill BS but I know the folks here and they're descended from the pilgrims and ready to do what's right.

65% of our budget is related to entitlements .. that leaves 35% for military, highways, etc...

I'd love to see change ... the reality is that there is little fat to cut and what is cut will be symbolic more than anything. what we need to do IMO is bring manufacturing back into play in this country and expand the tax base. We need to give huge corporate tax breaks to companies that manufacture in the USA ... and screw China being unhappy with that.

Everyone should pay some taxes ... even if it's 1% of earnings. When we expand the tax base and shrink government a bit we'll be on the right road ... simply decreasing government won't work and it actually will add to the unemployment in the country.

khayos · 10-18-2010, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by IcyPatriot

Everyone should pay some taxes ... even if it's 1% of earnings. When we expand the tax base and shrink government a bit we'll be on the right road ... simply decreasing government won't work and it actually will add to the unemployment in the country.

Expand the tax base and shrink government.... what the heck does that even mean? More people paying to make government smaller... what's the point then???

Real World · 10-19-2010, 12:09 AM

I think Medicare and SS are worth saving to most people, but not in their current size or form. It's time to restructure, downsize, and realocate the programs and resources of government.

***IcyPatriot*** · 10-19-2010, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by khayos

Expand the tax base and shrink government.... what the heck does that even mean? More people paying to make government smaller... what's the point then???

Reduce the deficit ... the biggest problem of all.

STFarmy · 10-19-2010, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Real World

I think Medicare and SS are worth saving to most people,

A little OT, I know, but I saw an ironic bumper sticker yesterday that said "Got Social Security? Thank Democrats!" No, I won't thank either party, because they know the system is failing and do nothing about it. And as of now, I WON'T have social security.

***Harry Boy*** · 10-19-2010, 07:41 AM

Hussein Obama And The Grinning Pelosi Gang Gave Birth To The Tea Party

SOMETHING HAD TO BE DONE
Look Around, Things Are Great Right

2 Wars-Gitmo-Economy-No Jobs-Forclosures

Hope Change Yes We Can=Bull*****

Without Obama / Pelosi Gang there would be no such thing as a "Tea Party"

***DarrylS*** · 10-19-2010, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by IcyPatriot

65% of our budget is related to entitlements .. that leaves 35% for military, highways, etc...

I'd love to see change ... the reality is that there is little fat to cut and what is cut will be symbolic more than anything. what we need to do IMO is bring manufacturing back into play in this country and expand the tax base. We need to give huge corporate tax breaks to companies that manufacture in the USA ... and screw China being unhappy with that.

Everyone should pay some taxes ... even if it's 1% of earnings. When we expand the tax base and shrink government a bit we'll be on the right road ... simply decreasing government won't work and it actually will add to the unemployment in the country.

Actually 51% of the budget is devoted to military spending.. hard to find as it is spread out all over the place...

Military Madness has ruined my country...

How the Pie Chart Figures Were Determined | War Resisters League

***reflexblue*** · 10-19-2010, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DarrylS

Actually 51% of the budget is devoted to military spending.. hard to find as it is spread out all over the place...

Military Madness has ruined my country...

How the Pie Chart Figures Were Determined | War Resisters League

The US spends more on the military than the rest of the world combined. I've always been a big supporter of the military, but do we really need 11 carrier battle groups for example. I just read that Britain and France are working on combining the operation of their TWO carriers. I think we've gotten a lot out of hand.