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Old 10-16-2010, 08:50 PM   #21
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BTW how bout a photo id verification to prevent illegal aliens from voting.
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Old 10-17-2010, 04:35 AM   #22
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They are people who 1 party likes to register to vote, the same party that is pushing full amnesty for all the illegal aliens in the country, the same party that is suing Az for enforcing the laws.
But that other party gave illegals amnesty under the tutelage of that great actor Ronald Raygun... many believe if he had gotten tough then instead of pandering to cheap labor, a different message would have been sent to those who choose to come here illegally... but the addiction to cheap labor was the fuel that kept this economy running.

The same Ronald Raygun who emboldened Hezbollah but not striking back after they killed over 250 Marines in Lebanon...

The same Ronald Raygun who is deified in this election, and for some reason no one ever calls the right on his ineptitude...
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Old 10-17-2010, 08:05 AM   #23
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But that other party gave illegals amnesty under the tutelage of that great actor Ronald Raygun... many believe if he had gotten tough then instead of pandering to cheap labor, a different message would have been sent to those who choose to come here illegally... but the addiction to cheap labor was the fuel that kept this economy running.

The same Ronald Raygun who emboldened Hezbollah but not striking back after they killed over 250 Marines in Lebanon...

The same Ronald Raygun who is deified in this election, and for some reason no one ever calls the right on his ineptitude...


Well Reagan certainly made mistakes suh as amnesty, OTOH he won the Cold War and took the economy from stagnation to the greatest generation of growth we have seen.

Greatest President of our lifetime and beloved by the American people (excepting bitter leftist)
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The Cold war was a 50 year fight and what brought the economy around was cheap oil prices.
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The Cold war was a 50 year fight and what brought the economy around was cheap oil prices.
You'd like to think it was this simple, wouldn't you? The reality is, it was far more complicated than your little summary above. I never voted for Reagan and I honestly couldn't wait until his tenure ended because backt then, I hated the republican party with a passion.

Flash forward 30 years and everything has changed. Cheap oil isn't the only reason our economy prospered. Technology is the main reason it prospered....far more so than cheap oil.

And Reagan fascilitated the end to the cold war more than anyone else. And even though I wasn't a Reagan fan, I had great respect for his role in that historic moment when we all saw "The Wall" torn down.

"Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
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Well Reagan certainly made mistakes suh as amnesty, OTOH he won the Cold War and took the economy from stagnation to the greatest generation of growth we have seen.

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He did not win the cold war, USSR was toast before he came into office.. he did a great theatrical presentation, but the cold war was over before he came into office...

He also emboldened Hezbollah by not retaliating after they killed over 250 Marines...

He also did several impeachable offenses including the Iran Contra Dealings and secretely negotiating with Iran prior to his election...

He also had the greatest tax increase in recent history..

There is no bitterness, just an effort to portray who this guy really was.. he was not some cartoon character, despite the efforts of the right to portray him as something he was not..
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Well Reagan certainly made mistakes suh as amnesty, OTOH he won the Cold War and took the economy from stagnation to the greatest generation of growth we have seen.

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+1. I love seeing the left wallow in their hatred for the man. Definitely the greatest President of the 20th Century.
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+1. I love seeing the left wallow in their hatred for the man. Definitely the greatest President of the 20th Century.
Another revisionist history person raises his ugly head, in this day and age of the internet he would have been impeached.. a "true" history lesson about Ronnie..

Negotiated with the Iranians in the summer before he was elected( an impeachable offense.)

The Iran Contra Affair(in this day and age of internet hysteria it would be an impeachable offense).

Did not retaliate against Hezbollah after they bombed the Marine Barracks, killing 250 Marines.. many claim that the lack of response emboldened terrorists around the world..

Gave amnesty to 3 million illegals

Passed the greatest tax increase in modern history..

Took credit for the ending of the "Cold War", while in reality when he came into office the USSR was toast.. he was in the right place at the right time.
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Another revisionist history person raises his ugly head, in this day and age of the internet he would have been impeached.. a "true" history lesson about Ronnie..

Negotiated with the Iranians in the summer before he was elected( an impeachable offense.)

The Iran Contra Affair(in this day and age of internet hysteria it would be an impeachable offense).

Did not retaliate against Hezbollah after they bombed the Marine Barracks, killing 250 Marines.. many claim that the lack of response emboldened terrorists around the world..

Gave amnesty to 3 million illegals

Passed the greatest tax increase in modern history..

Took credit for the ending of the "Cold War", while in reality when he came into office the USSR was toast.. he was in the right place at the right time.
Wow. My own personal stalker waited all of 4 minutes to respond to my post - that's longer than usual!

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He did not win the cold war, USSR was toast before he came into office.. he did a great theatrical presentation, but the cold war was over before he came into office...

He also emboldened Hezbollah by not retaliating after they killed over 250 Marines...

He also did several impeachable offenses including the Iran Contra Dealings and secretely negotiating with Iran prior to his election...

He also had the greatest tax increase in recent history..

There is no bitterness, just an effort to portray who this guy really was.. he was not some cartoon character, despite the efforts of the right to portray him as something he was not..


Gee I remember Jimmah and his malaise and the pundits saying we couldn't win an arms race, Stars Wars was crazy ect, then it turns out that the Star Wars program is what convinced Gorby and the Russians to the table.

I love the revisionist bitter spin from those who lost to Reagan, He won Through strength which you and your ilk said would fail.
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