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Old 10-14-2010, 03:40 PM   #1
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As you can tell by the title it is a very open thread.



I am a Conservative man in many respects of the word conservatism. I however voted for Obama in the past election... and it was not because of his rhetoric and promise of change. I do not believe Obama has been a premeir presidential occupant thus far, but I am not going to knock him for it and I will tell you why.




1). Our current president inherited an immensely non gregarious situation that had already sucked b/c of the Bush administration. Bush screwed our country up beyond believe and we are still trying to recover from financial ruin he put us into w/ the "useless" wars (I like to call). Iraq was a huge waste of resources and time.

2). The reason I voted for Obama was b/c I did not want the administration of this country to follow the same old road that Bush led us down. He is the devil.


3). I do not know who I will vote forin the next presidential election.....
I am merely defending Obama on the premise that he had inherited a **** situation.


4). We cannot expect our tattered economy to get better in merely a few years. Bush's years represented a span of eight.


5). I still think the future looks uneventful, economically speaking. It will really take at least a decade to undue the wrongs committed by and under GW.

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Old 10-14-2010, 03:44 PM   #2
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5). I still think the future looks uneventful, economically speaking. It will really take at least a decade to undue the wrongs committed by and under GW.
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You can't despise the Bush administration without despising what Obama has done; aside from the passing of socialist policies, spending has continued to increase, bailouts continuted and the wars are still going on. If you didn't like Bush, Obama is like all the bad parts of Bush on steriods.
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The economic $#!T didnt hit he fan until very late in the election process. McCain's economic advisor was Phil FRICKIN Gramm! One of the architects of deregulation. McCain himself said during the campaign that he didnt understand economics, and about two weeks later was halting his campaign to fly to washington to fix it.

Not many people saw the economic crisis happening, save a few dozen investors. The toxic mortgage money had been sliced 7 ways to Sunday by the time the bottom fell out. NOt many people have a good enough memory to understand that it was BUSH who signed the bailout (Obama and McCain voted for it). It was BUSH who decided that the best way to pay for 2 wars was with DISCRESSIONARY spending (aka not on the books) and become the first American President to both lower taxes during warS, and encourage the country to sacrafice NOTHING for the war effort.

People who b!tch about spending, and socialism that didnt speak out while Bush was expanding government, faking evidence to invade soverign nations, losing trillions on the national credit card, and torturing captives, really need to check themselves.

I feel bad for Obama to some extent. The results we see from his presidency to this point are more a case of avoidance of a potential future we have yet to see.

Make no mistake about any misgivings, the current crisis is the direct result of a number of poor economic and international policies. Most of which have been spearheaded by those in and around the "Project for the New American Century", and those who supported "Supply Side Economics" here at home.

They were 100% wrong. Their little experiment has resulted in the economic freefall of this nation once prided by its workforce, ingenuity, spirit and middle class. They screwed the American worker, they screwed our international image, and they have screwed our future.



I get to read how you flag pin wearing, don't tread on me, BS aholes now want your country back. When I hear that, all I can imagine is that they believe that the Nation has been taken over by some idealist, who is secretly bent on destroying what the founders of this country wanted. Y'all are too stupid to see that BUSH was that very person, you sat there and said NOTHING while his policies of lies, to promote wealth for his friends, were the catylist in everything you now complain about.


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Iraq for 1 was a huge blunder. We put so much $$$ into that war and we accomplished relatively nothing. Wars cost $$$ and through out that span we racked up many trillions in debt


Iraq was never a problem... Hussein did not have WMD's and his ppl were under control and living in fear.


imo.... they are not our problem.

At least the hundreds of trillions of dollars we spent in that **** hole freed us some Iraqi civilians.


Domestic issues before getting involved internationally. (That is how i Roll )
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I am very conservative...... but also a realist.


Pro Death penalty

For military funding, but not in favor of useless wars. cough cough Iraq


Pro- cracking down on illegal immigration




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Iraq for 1 was a huge blunder. We put so much $$$ into that war and we accomplished relatively nothing. Wars cost $$$ and through out that span we racked up many trillions in debt


Iraq was never a problem... Hussein did not have WMD's and his ppl were under control and living in fear.


imo.... they are not our problem.

At least the hundreds of trillions of dollars we spent in that **** hole freed us some Iraqi civilians.


Domestic issues before getting involved internationally. (That is how i Roll )
100's of trillions? Total spending in Iraq is $751 billion dollars (2003-2010).

I am not sure what the connection between Iraq and the subprime crisis is.
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100's of trillions? Total spending in Iraq is $751 billion dollars (2003-2010).

I am not sure what the connection between Iraq and the subprime crisis is.
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