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Old 10-15-2010, 12:52 AM   #11
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FYI when Bush and his merry bunch of neo-cons were in their first term spending increased 33%... Coke or Pepsi??
Yeah but wasn't this time around supposed to be different? Weren't we supposed to see some "CHANGE" by now?
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Yeah but wasn't this time around supposed to be different? Weren't we supposed to see some "CHANGE" by now?
Not sure he promised that... the reality is that government spending has increased quite a bit in this first decade...
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Not sure he promised that... the reality is that government spending has increased quite a bit in this first decade...
You're not sure he promised change?
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You're not sure he promised change?
Not the change, reduced spending....
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Not the change, reduced spending....
If the previous administration is spending like drunken sailors, don't you think that decreased spending would fall under the flag of the so called "change" that we were promised?
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If the previous administration is spending like drunken sailors, don't you think that decreased spending would fall under the flag of the so called "change" that we were promised?
Obviously you seem to follow this dialogue better than I, do not recall any reduction in spending promises, personally did not expect the spending to go down until we are out of this financial mess...
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Who is really running the country? How can we find them?
If you have to ask you will probably never understand...

Suggest that you follow the money, Open Secrets is a great place to start.. fascinating site.

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He's brought as much change as he could while kissing the butts of a bunch of blue dog dems and supposedly potentially maybe sorta moderate republicans - who turned out not to exist.

Except Scott Brown, of course

Screw coke or pepsi, Tetley or Lipton?

- Passed health reform (watered down by appeal to the right)

- Transferred warfighting in South Asia from Iraq (where we had NO reason to be) to Afghanistan (where he said he'd focus... though I'm not certain that's such a great idea either... though after 7 years for the Iraq mistake, we evidently have institute a 2 year window for success in Afghanistan.

- Achieved financial reform package (too modest to do the job, if you ask me)

- Passed the biggest tax break in U.S. hisory

- Oh yeah, by the way... inherited Economic collapse, years of on-book deficits, & trillions in off-books spending by previous administration, & stabilized economy to the point where recovery is possible.

- For those who give a damn about U.S. jobs, ensured - for now - existence of U.S. auto sector.

When so much of what you do has to do with PREVENTING enormous changes for the worse - such as the last two items - it's really hard to brag about having changed the country.

But when the camera and the mikes are no longer on the bleating twits, we will have at least a functioning beginning for what comes next. What we did before did not work.

You guys are going to complain about change if it happens, and complain that it hasn't happened if it doesn't. The rest of us DO know the rhetorical game.

Here's the thing: as long as people are unemployed in great numbers, it will resonate.

If and when recovery is palpable, all this becomes somewhat quaint.

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If you have to ask you will probably never understand...

Suggest that you follow the money, Open Secrets is a great place to start.. fascinating site.

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