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Real World · 10-09-2010, 12:42 PM

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Food Stamp Nation

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Posted: October 07, 2010
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"The lessons of history ... show conclusively that continued dependence upon relief induces a spiritual and moral disintegration fundamentally destructive to the national fiber. To dole out relief in this way is to administer a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit."

These searing words about Depression-era welfare are from Franklin Roosevelt's 1935 State of the Union Address. FDR feared this self-reliant people might come to depend permanently upon government for the necessities of their daily lives. Like narcotics, such a dependency would destroy the fiber and spirit of the nation.

What brings his words to mind is news that 41.8 million Americans are on food stamps, and the White House estimates 43 million will soon be getting food stamps every month.

A seventh of the nation cannot even feed itself.

Food Stamp Nation

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If you would chart America's decline, this program is a good place to begin. As a harbinger of the Great Society to come, in early 1964, a Food Stamp Act was signed into law by LBJ appropriating $75 million for 350,000 individuals in 40 counties and three U.S. cities.

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Fast forward to 2009. The cost to taxpayers of the U.S. food-stamp program hit $56 billion. The number of recipients and cost of the program exploded again last year.

Real World · 10-09-2010, 12:50 PM

Lots of fatherless kids in this country.

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Among the reasons is family disintegration. Forty percent of all children in America are now born out of wedlock. Among Hispanics, it is 51 percent. Among African-Americans, it is 71 percent.

Food stamps are feeding children abandoned by their own fathers. Taxpayers are taking up the slack for America's deadbeat dads.

The lemon factory's are serving these kids too much lemonade.

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Obesity rates have soared. Forty percent of all the kids in city public schools from kindergarten through eighth grade are overweight or obese.

Hard to disagree.

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What a changed country we have become in our expectations of ourselves. A less affluent America survived a Depression and world war without anything like the 99 weeks of unemployment insurance, welfare payments, earned income tax credits, food stamps, rent supplements, day care, school lunches and Medicaid we have today.

Public or private charity were thought necessary, but were almost always to be temporary until a breadwinner could find work or a family could get back on its feet. The expectation was that almost everyone, with hard work and by keeping the nose to the grindstone, could make his or her own way in this free society. No more.

What we have accepted today is a vast permanent underclass of scores of millions who cannot cope and must be carried by the rest of society – fed, clothed, housed, tutored, medicated at taxpayers' expense for their entire lives. We have a new division in America: those who pay a double fare, and those who forever ride free.

TBradyOwnsYou · 10-09-2010, 01:01 PM

I think it should be much harder to get on food stamps or welfare.

PatriotsReign · 10-09-2010, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Real World

Lots of fatherless kids in this country.

The lemon factory's are serving these kids too much lemonade.

Hard to disagree.

Allaluya & Amen brother!

I've never really thought about ALL those things that have become permanent costs to our government and the additional weight that is being carried by those who produce. It's really frightening RW.

What it makes me think of is that one of 2 things have caused this;

1. Our economic system has been decaying for decades and has been unable to employ enough people to the level where it all seems worthwhile.

2. The very systems that were created to help people has resulted in permanent hopelessness, laziness and just plain systematic lethargy.

Real World · 10-09-2010, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign

What it makes me think of is that one of 2 things have caused this;

1. Our economic system has been decaying for decades and has been unable to employ enough people to the level where it all seems worthwhile.

2. The very systems that were created to help people has resulted in permanent hopelessness, laziness and just plain systematic lethargy.

Those two points make a lot of sense pal. The more you do for people, the less they do for themselves.

***DarrylS*** · 10-10-2010, 05:17 AM

You understand that the Food Stamp Program is a Department of Agriculture program, and was founded to help farmers as much as it was to help poor folks...

At its genesis the program was designed to assist the working poor, as well as those on assistance... always find it interesting that there are few articles on our mushrooming Department of Defense Budget(which now takes $.51 of every tax dollar) but a lot of articles on a program that is designed to feed children....

Come on now an article in Worldnet Daily by Pat Buchanan... no agenda here...

sdaniels7114 · 10-10-2010, 07:19 AM

I know two single males, neither of whom are contributing in raising any kids, who get 'food stamp' money every month. Both are in their 20's and are perfectly capable of working. That's not right IMO. Charity is for those with a genuine need, the food stamp program needs to be adjusted.

Now tell me how to do it without spending more money enforcing proper rules than we currently spend on the deadbeats yet leaves things so poor children and little old ladies don't end up eating cat food to get by.

Mrs.PatsFanInVa · 10-10-2010, 07:55 AM

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Now tell me how to do it without spending more money enforcing proper rules than we currently spend on the deadbeats yet leaves things so poor children and little old ladies don't end up eating cat food to get by.

That's the thing, isn't it? I don't think anyone's quite figured that out yet, have they?

***DarrylS*** · 10-10-2010, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sdaniels7114

I know two single males, neither of whom are contributing in raising any kids, who get 'food stamp' money every month. Both are in their 20's and are perfectly capable of working. That's not right IMO. Charity is for those with a genuine need, the food stamp program needs to be adjusted.

Now tell me how to do it without spending more money enforcing proper rules than we currently spend on the deadbeats yet leaves things so poor children and little old ladies don't end up eating cat food to get by.

They should not be eligible and those two guys represent a loophole that needs changing..

I always chuckle at ads that tote human quality dog or cat food... heaven forbid.

scout · 10-10-2010, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sdaniels7114

I know two single males, neither of whom are contributing in raising any kids, who get 'food stamp' money every month. Both are in their 20's and are perfectly capable of working. That's not right IMO. Charity is for those with a genuine need, the food stamp program needs to be adjusted.

Now tell me how to do it without spending more money enforcing proper rules than we currently spend on the deadbeats yet leaves things so poor children and little old ladies don't end up eating cat food to get by.

In the past, I've been in charge of school lunch program's free lunch. There have been a number of times where people took advantage of the program. That doesn't mean you shut the program down, or that the program is a fraud. In the case of food stamps, I am sure there are people that are taking advantage of the program. OTH, we are in the worst economic times since the great depression (anyone want to argue that point), thus, its logical that more people are on food stamps. What is really annoying, is when politicians go after programs aiding the poor and ignore corporate welfare or the DOD, which Darryls mentioned.