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Bay State welfare recipients can play the slots, pick up a six-pack of beer or nab a flat-screen plasma TV under loosey-goosey Bay State restrictions that allow those on the dole to treat taxpayers’ wallets as their own personal ATM.
Recipients of the Department of Transitional Assistance programs get Electronic Benefits Transfer cards that work like regular debit cards, allowing them to withdraw cash from ATMs and use it for whatever they want - all with scant oversight by the state.
State officials were unable to say how many liquor stores and bars accept the EBT cards. Nor could they say for certain that welfare cash isn’t being used on Lottery tickets or even casinos.
Great.... Auntie Z can gamble, smoke buts and buy wine on our dime.
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Great.... Auntie Z can gamble, smoke buts and buy wine on our dime.
Well, now they better find out because people like us (everyone on this board) won't stand for people using welfare funds to spend it on liquor or gambling.
That is the most troubling news I've heard about welfare in a long, long time.
Re: Welfare card can be swiped for Booze, Smokes, Slots
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Well, now they better find out because people like us (everyone on this board) won't stand for people using welfare funds to spend it on liquor or gambling.
That is the most troubling news I've heard about welfare in a long, long time.
People like Patters and Apple don't care. Remember, even the lazy bums should get something. That's Patters' take.
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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him." Leo Tolstoy, 1897
Re: Welfare card can be swiped for Booze, Smokes, Slots
Just out of curiousity - what "oversight" was there before the Electronic Benefit Card?
I presume that, just like paychecks which used to be handed out or mailed to employees on Friday but are now automatically deposited, welfare checks used to be issued once a month and the recipient cashed it at a bank or a grocery store or a check-cashing store and then proceeded to spend it any way they wanted.
Did we ever "know for certain" that money doled out the "old way" wasn't spent on any of the things you're railing about here now?
Or is this just whining about the same old thing in a new way?
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Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa
Just out of curiousity - what "oversight" was there before the Electronic Benefit Card?
I presume that, just like paychecks which used to be handed out or mailed to employees on Friday but are now automatically deposited, welfare checks used to be issued once a month and the recipient cashed it at a bank or a grocery store or a check-cashing store and then proceeded to spend it any way they wanted.
Did we ever "know for certain" that money doled out the "old way" wasn't spent on any of the things you're railing about here now?
Or is this just whining about the same old thing in a new way?
That's a good point and maybe it's true that we've never known what they spent it on. But now that we can control what they spend it on, I think we should put controls upon it, don't you?
I mean, who could intelligently argue that people on welfare should be able to spend the "money we give them" on booze, gambling or cigarettes.
All 3 of the tings I listed are things people can do without. Especially if they have young children. But welfare is to provide basic necessities, not to enjoy life's unhealthy pleasures.
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Re: Welfare card can be swiped for Booze, Smokes, Slots
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Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa
Just out of curiousity - what "oversight" was there before the Electronic Benefit Card?
I presume that, just like paychecks which used to be handed out or mailed to employees on Friday but are now automatically deposited, welfare checks used to be issued once a month and the recipient cashed it at a bank or a grocery store or a check-cashing store and then proceeded to spend it any way they wanted.
Did we ever "know for certain" that money doled out the "old way" wasn't spent on any of the things you're railing about here now?
Or is this just whining about the same old thing in a new way?
I don't know how things were 30years ago, but I do know that here today we have the ability to create oversight. I just read an article about some other state (I forget which one but I want to say NY) has now made it so you can't buy soda with food stamps. That's no soda. But in Massachusetts, you can get booze and scratch tickets.
Stop being such an apologist. It's liberal government run wild.
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Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa
Just out of curiousity - what "oversight" was there before the Electronic Benefit Card?
I presume that, just like paychecks which used to be handed out or mailed to employees on Friday but are now automatically deposited, welfare checks used to be issued once a month and the recipient cashed it at a bank or a grocery store or a check-cashing store and then proceeded to spend it any way they wanted.
Did we ever "know for certain" that money doled out the "old way" wasn't spent on any of the things you're railing about here now?
Or is this just whining about the same old thing in a new way?
I think this is talking about Food Stamps. Previously there was a list of what you could use them for. I think what this article is saying is that with the EBT card people can use it more places and without the same restrictions. They can even use it to get cash(!!), which is surprising. The WIC benefit was usually tied to actual food purchases. Now it can be used for anything.
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Originally Posted by The Brandon Five
I think this is talking about Food Stamps. Previously there was a list of what you could use them for. I think what this article is saying is that with the EBT card people can use it more places and without the same restrictions. They can even use it to get cash(!!), which is surprising. The WIC benefit was usually tied to actual food purchases. Now it can be used for anything.
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So now it's both food stamps and welfare? We gotta get some control over this...ESPECIALLY over WIC! That's supposed to be just for children.
I'll have to spend more time reading up on this. It's not clear to me what the rules are. What is clear is that the EBT card is for both. If the funds are co-mingled in one account, then yeah, they can use it for anything.