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So what does this mean in relation to the specific incident at hand? We understand, neo-con = evil. Thing is, what's that got to do with the price of these banana's?

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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
Leo Tolstoy, 1897

The Brandon Five

..and only Israel can fake a video...right?

TBradyOwnsYou

Um, yes?

And for F sakes, just because someone is born within our borders making him a US Citizen, doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to die. There are PLENTY of scumbag, idiot, terrorist, etc... citizens of the US that need to die.

Mrs.PatsFanInVa

From what 13 is saying here and from what he's said on threads regarding the Shirley Sherrod video and the ACORN videos, yeah.

Mrs.PatsFanInVa

So you don't believe in all that constitutional stuff granting people a right to a trial or anything, right?

The Brandon Five

I am not sure the IDF is subject to the U.S. Constitution.

I think that the Geneva Convention is what would be in play here if, you know, they people on the flotilla were in uniform and followed the rules of the convention themselves.

Mrs.PatsFanInVa

Whether a foreign country is bound by our constitution or not, execution style killings are generally frowned on by most free-world countries....and Americans generally have problems with other Americans being executed without a trial regardless of their crime or what country it was committed in.

I'm also pretty sure that The Geneva Convention does not allow for shooting people in the head while they're lying wounded on the floor.

The Brandon Five

Apparently the "law professor" running the country is not aware of that.

Olbermann on Obama's assassination program - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com

Can we do it after a trial?

Not then either? I don't understand that objection then.

As someone else said earlier, I don't think we will ever know exactly what happened on that flotilla. How did they determine forensically that he was lying down wounded when he was shot in the head?

wistahpatsfan

I ws referring to the default setting neocons have with ANYTHING Israel does. Even when they murder an American citizen. If Argentina had done this there would be a carrier division on their way and Obama (as well as you, me, and most of the posters here) would be demanding an explaination and official apology...or else! Maybe the problem here is that the kid's parents were Turkish. If he was a Muslim, he wasn't really an American, right? By all appearances, this kid did nothing to deserve the death penalty, and anyone who says he did without proof is an un-American POS who prefers allegiance to Israel to backing up one of their own, IMO.

Once again, ISRAEL does whatever it wants and hides behind the neocon shield it has built in America.

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Mrs.PatsFanInVa

How have you determined that he was not?

They're the experts, I presume. If a forensic expert testifies before a US court of law, generally they are believed.

But you're right, I don't know - I'm not a forensic expert. I don't know much about bullets and trajectory other than what I've observed. For the most part, however, even an untrained EMT who's first on the scene and who's developed some familiarity with bullet wounds can pretty much accurately guess.

That's why our notes and reports become so important when it comes to a trial.