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Real World · 10-23-2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sdaniels7114

The blond drunk will have to go to great lengths to ruin her life with booze, the Meth guy's on a much quicker path. She's been on her path for 3 years and still doesn't look ragged out. He's been on his for one and is already yanking his own teeth out. Seems like a good reason why one's legal and the other isn't.

Crystal Meth user

I'm with you here Sd. Some drugs are too dangerous, and making them legal would be very detrimental to society as a whole. Drugs like heroin & meth are extremely addictive and destructive. You just can't have that type of stuff sold publically. I'm more open to legalizing casual stuff like weed, and maybe pills. Drugs who's effects aren't nearly as dangerous. Of course, such legalization would require a sound policy & regulatory process. I view drugs somewhat similarly to guns (edit). (I said somewhat) See, I favor gun control, and I favor the 2nd Amendment. I think people who obey the law, an want a weapon, should have the right to obtain one. I think there should be a reasonable process though. Also, I don't think such weapons should include an RPG or a PKM, just like I don't think legalized drugs should include heroin or crystal meth.

fleabassist1 · 10-23-2007, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sdaniels7114

The blond drunk will have to go to great lengths to ruin her life with booze, the Meth guy's on a much quicker path. She's been on her path for 3 years and still doesn't look ragged out. He's been on his for one and is already yanking his own teeth out. Seems like a good reason why one's legal and the other isn't.

The problem with alcohol is that it is a very numbing feeling. The alcoholic drinks to numb out their emotions and feelings so that they can cope with problems easier - thus creating a reliance on alcohol. Alcohol may not be as quick as meth, but it still destroys lives all the same... it's still an addiction.

The "Look" of the blond drunk compared to coley is nothing... but the destruction of their families is.

Liver problems, brain problems, etc are caused by alcohol as much as facial features and brain problems are caused by meth.

***Patters*** · 10-23-2007, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wistahpatsfan

Given how the government RIGHT NOW is dealing with addiction and drug trade, what makes you think they have the potential to do it any other way and do it correctly?

It wouldn't be government, it would be universities, pharmaceutical companies, and others who have the skills to research the problem.

fleabassist1 · 10-23-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Patters

I lean towards making all drugs legal, if only so that we can get a handle on the extent of the crisis and work in more formal ways to develop appropriate treatment. Right now, because so many drugs are illegal, the addict does his/her best to operate outside the radar and as a result is less likely to seek help. The illegal drug trade is very lucrative for all the wrong people, and it's quite apparent that the anti-drug laws have not stemmed the use of drugs. By legalizing drugs we would understand the extent of the problem and be able to openly and easily conduct studies to identify ways to help people quit drugs.

So if you support legalization of all drugs so that we can get a handle on the extent of the crisis to work for more formal ways to develop appropriate treatment... what about homicide? Should we legalize murder so we can determine how to deal with serial killers? How about rape? Should we legalize it to better understand why these creeps rape people? Embezzlement? I guess legalizing everything would be a good population control...

***Patters*** · 10-23-2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fleabassist1

So if you support legalization of all drugs so that we can get a handle on the extent of the crisis to work for more formal ways to develop appropriate treatment... what about homicide? Should we legalize murder so we can determine how to deal with serial killers? How about rape? Should we legalize it to better understand why these creeps rape people? Embezzlement? I guess legalizing everything would be a good population control...

I don't think you can compare personal drug use to homicide or rape, and certainly drugs that induce homicidal tendencies should not be legalized. But, by legalizing drugs, we undercut the corrupt profiteers, ensure that the drugs are not contaminated, and can more easily engage in controlled studies to help people quit. I also don't think legalizing drugs would increase the number of users, provided any taxes from those drugs were used for educational and treatment purposes.

fleabassist1 · 10-23-2007, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Patters

I don't think you can compare personal drug use to homicide or rape, and certainly drugs that induce homicidal tendencies should not be legalized. But, by legalizing drugs, we undercut the corrupt profiteers, ensure that the drugs are not contaminated, and can more easily engage in controlled studies to help people quit. I also don't think legalizing drugs would increase the number of users, provided any taxes from those drugs were used for educational and treatment purposes.

Heroin, cocaine, Acid, LSD, and even Marijuana have led to homicidal tendencies in some people... after all, drugs effect the brain. There is no way to determine what a drug will do to a specific person.

***Harry Boy*** · 10-23-2007, 01:11 PM

Legal or not, if the people want it the people will get it, there will always be a way and there will always be somebody there willing and ready to provide the American people with what they want no matter what society or the law says.

Legalizing drugs won't stop addiction legalizing will take most of the crime out of drug use, it will get rid of the Colombian, Mexican and Gang Banger dealer bastards and it will stop "the deal gone bad" killing.

Instead of being out on the street looking for a fix the junkie will be at home with his bag of ***** that he bought in the Wal Mart Pharmacy smiling and studying his belly button, the Slimey Drug Dealer won't be buying $700 sneakers he will be washing cars or mowing lawns.

AMERICA LOVES IT'S DRUGS BILLY BLUE DRESS' BROTHER SAYS "THE PRESIDENT HAD A NOSE LIKE A VACUM CLEANER"

Real World · 10-23-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Patters

I don't think you can compare personal drug use to homicide or rape, and certainly drugs that induce homicidal tendencies should not be legalized. But, by legalizing drugs, we undercut the corrupt profiteers, ensure that the drugs are not contaminated, and can more easily engage in controlled studies to help people quit. I also don't think legalizing drugs would increase the number of users, provided any taxes from those drugs were used for educational and treatment purposes.

Oh, stop it, please! You almost had me with that one! You're such a funny guy Patters.

wistahpatsfan · 10-23-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Real World

Oh, stop it, please! You almost had me with that one! You're such a funny guy Patters.

You think someone who doesn't use now would start using if it were legal?
I don't think so. Of course, any opinion on this question is purely guessing, since there's no prescedent...
Oh wait! Prohibition!

wistahpatsfan · 10-23-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fleabassist1

Heroin, cocaine, Acid, LSD, and even Marijuana have led to homicidal tendencies in some people... after all, drugs effect the brain. There is no way to determine what a drug will do to a specific person.

That's complete and total BULLSH-T!
Reefer has not one case of homocidal connection to it. In fact it may have prevented a lot of murders. When I was partaking, there were times when I was so ripsh-t that I wanted to smack someone, but I lit up, played Bob Marley, had sex and calmed right down. Maybe it was the sex.

So when will we be criminalizing alcohol, which (I'm pretty sure) causes lots of violence and murder.