QuiGon

Whatever happened to the woman who changed her name to Hillary "Rodham" Clinton the day after her husband won election in 1992..? Where's our uppity feminist looking to socialize our health care system..?

Oh yeah... she, like all liberals, knows she can't get elected for what she really is. She has to pretend to be something she's not to pull the wool over the voters' eyes.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar..._constituency/

MANCHESTER, N.H. - Everywhere she goes, Hillary Clinton asks voters to help her make history as the first woman president.

Yet Clinton is increasingly portraying herself more as motherly and traditional than as trailblazing and feminist, sometimes playing up the differences between men and women.

And at the AFL-CIO Democratic forum in Chicago in August, the most memorable moment was Clinton's buoyant declaration to the union faithful that if they wanted a winner, "I'm your girl."

Patters

No different that the Connecticut effete Bush who went to Phillips Academy in Andover pretending to be a good old boy from Texas. His friend, the former President of Mexico called him a "windshield cowboy" who is "afraid of horses":

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...1/wbush121.xml

So, what you just said about liberals, I think applies to most candidates. The smart ones position themselves to appeal to at least 51% of the voters.

QuiGon

There's a surprise... a liberal can't defend against what I have said, so they simply respond with an attack on Bush, Rush, Fox News, etc...

Never seen that tactic before

Patters

If you read more carefully, you would see that I'm agreeing with what you said, but adding that it applies not only to liberals, but to conservatives as well. I do not think your point needed to be partisan.

Real World

Hillary is so fony, and so finger in the wind, it's pathetic. That woman would sell her children if it meant getting elected.

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QuiGon

Whatever you say, old buddy..!! All I know is I laughed myself silly when you, of all people, called someone else "effete". So it was well worth the time and energy...

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Patters

To paraphrase you --

There's a surprise... QuiGon can't defend against what I have said, so he simply responds by calling me names.

Never seen that tactic before

STFarmy

I'm with Patters; most policians try to appeal to as many people as possible. It's something prevalent in both parties. I think Hilary is worse than most, but Romney's doing it a lot too.

Real World

Pandering is to be expected. You, as in a candidate, have to try to appeal to a broad range of voters. In doing so, you will pander a bit. I can handle that, but what I can't handle, is being a FRAUD! Like being for the war before being against it, or being pro-choice but all of a sudden being pro-life, etc.. Some pandering is reality, changing your stripes is crossing the line. Romney is a fraud, and Hillary is a finger in the wind fony. I'd much prefer someone who panders a little, but stands up and says this is what I am. At least that way I know where someone stands, and can decide whether I like them or not. I'm more apt to vote for someone I don't agree with on some issues, because I think they are firm in their beliefs. The people who talk out of both sides of their mouth are the ones I fear the most.

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Leo Tolstoy, 1897