PressCoverage

well, that's the kind of sound logic we've come to expect from you, our most irrational, fringe poster available...

Fogbuster

This comparison will never die. As long as there are those who insist upon demonizing one president for his shortcomings -- and, indeed, I have acknowledged Bush's shortcomings on many, many occasions, which you now conveniently forget -- there will be others who hold up that same demonizing judgment toward other presidents of a different party/philosophy. As my mother taught me: what's good for the goose is good for the gander.



I shudder to think what would have happened had Clinton been president during a 9/11 type attack. He would probably have called the Chinese and asked them what to do; after all, he got elected with mega-millions of their cash (taken from Americans who now buy Chinese goods by the boat-loads, even as the Chinese workers get paid a pittance).

As for any lying on Bush's part, I put whatever "lies" he has told on an even less egregious level than Belichick's use of cameras. Bush has never acted for his own personal gain in any of this. He stands to gain not a thing from creating a democratic Iraq/Middle East. He doesn't have enough money to live on?? Give me a break.

In fact, given the continued and ever-expanding misuses of democracy by malicious parties who want to destroy the spiritual, moral, and social fabric of America -- all in the name of "personal pleasure" -- I think Bush may have worked too hard to create too much democracy too soon. It is glaringly evident that unguided and unprincipled democracy allows too much license to murder, rape, and steal, as we see now in America and around the world's democracies. Clearly, without a realistic framework upon which to hang democracy, there will be only more abuses of that freedom to choose one's governance. We are reaching a crisis point. If America continues its present course, it will lose all power to lead in the world; and with the emergence of China as a burgeoning economic power, it is only a matter of time -- less than 20 years, I'd say -- that China becomes the dominant leader in the world, at least economically.


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DarrylS

John Kerry has an honorable discharge, still there have been questions about his conduct during Viet Nam.

No one, no one has come forth and validated his service during the missing year in Alabama, no one saw him, no one did not see him.. he was a fortunate son and that cannot be denied. He got over big time and no one questions his presence.

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"Being the best doesn't mean you always win. It just means you win more than anyone else".. tweet from Kurt Warner to Tom Brady.

DarrylS

Think you have entered the world of delusional, comparing anything to what BB did to what George has done is a stretch of unmentional proportion. Bush never acted for his own personal gain? How about the esteem factor from all of his oil friends from Texas? He has plenty of money to live on, no argument, but there is this greed factor which many of us do not understand. If you do not think that George did not benefit, you have spent too much time on rw blogs and have completely lost touch with any semblance of reality.

I would think the China stuff would be pretty good for Daddy Moon, more capitalist markets to buy and sell his stuff and procure more companies. It is about the money isn't it?? Just think more markets, more maidens to procure for the old men of the loonie moonie church..

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"Being the best doesn't mean you always win. It just means you win more than anyone else".. tweet from Kurt Warner to Tom Brady.

Fogbuster

That you would consider a comparison between Bush and BB as "delusional" says more about you than anyone else. Guess you don't read the news and how some people want BB fired, taken to court, sent to prison. That's right, some are saying what BB did was *worse* than Michael Vick. And you don't see the comparison to what some people (moveon.org) say about Bush ??? Speaks volumes about you. "Esteem factor" from all his buds in Texas ??? And, like you are not dying for some esteem from your buds on discussion lists.




Yeah, I guess you don't keep up with the Washington Times or what the Universal Peace Federation have been doing. Again, it speaks volumes about you. Rev. Moon has invested billions to get America out of its nose-dive, first from communism and now from amoral lovelessness, and the thanks he gets is spew like you're dishing out. Frankly, I sometimes wonder where Father Moon gets the love he pours out to save America from falling into a hell far worse than what Sodom and Gamorrah were. But, I guess you're too far gone to have any eyes to see, ears to hear, or conscience to tell you.


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DarrylS

Have read just about everything on BB, cannot recall anyone talking about prison, maybe on some of your loonie blogs it is suggested.. you are so far from the mainstream, you do not know what you are talking about. Comparing it to Vick is another stretch, and once again your loonie moonie blogs are betraying you.. no one has made this comparison, check your sources..

BTW I did not mention Move On, do not give a rats ass about move on.

What BB did, some call it a rule misinterpretation, some call it cheating.. to compare to the lies of BB pales.. BB is a football coach, no one died... GWB is the President, and his lies cost over 3K american lives and by some estimates 1.2 million Iraqis..

Reverend Moon is a great guy, maybe a great capitalist, but not sure he is much else.. any religion that arranges for marriages belies the basic choice you have, freedom to choose your partner.. any religion that recruits young women for marriage by an elder is sick, sick, sick.. btw don't you fit this perverted criteria???..lets see you are 60+ and have a 12 year old.. that makes your wife in her 30's, now what does that look like?? Use your imagination.

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"Being the best doesn't mean you always win. It just means you win more than anyone else".. tweet from Kurt Warner to Tom Brady.

DarrylS

Hey Fogman,

Why don't you go over to the main Pats Fans and start a new thread about how what BB did is more egregious than what George Bush did or what Michael Vick did? Then post and talk about all the articles that validate the idea of sending BB to Jail.. see the response, then forever you will be exposed for the fraud you are.

Must be the Vilnius water.. not much else makes sense here.

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"Being the best doesn't mean you always win. It just means you win more than anyone else".. tweet from Kurt Warner to Tom Brady.

Fogbuster

Well, you can start with this thread:
ESPN: "Don't be surprised if Bill Belichick doesn't last the season."

and go down from there. I've seen calls for Belichick's resignation and for legal proceedings to be started against him. I've even seen Pats fans on the main message board compare BB's "high tech lynching" with what the haters have been doing to Bush. Look it up. I ain't your gofer and I won't do your own work for you. If you don't believe me, don't read what I say. And if you continue with the blantant ad hominem attacks on either me or Rev. Moon, I shall simply refuse to answer your posts. I have no obligation to indulge your hate-filled spew. You can rot in it, if you want, and others who feel that way can join you. Your choice; not mine.


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DarrylS

Here is the quote on BB I called into question, which essentially said that whatever BB did is more egregious than Bush's lies:

"As for any lying on Bush's part, I put whatever "lies" he has told on an even less egregious level than Belichick's use of cameras. Bush has never acted for his own personal gain in any of this. He stands to gain not a thing from creating a democratic Iraq/Middle East. He doesn't have enough money to live on?? Give me a break."

and then you say:

"Guess you don't read the news and how some people want BB fired, taken to court, sent to prison. That's right, some are saying what BB did was *worse* than Michael Vick. And you don't see the comparison to what some people (moveon.org) say about Bush ??? Speaks volumes about you. "Esteem factor" from all his buds in Texas ??? And, like you are not dying for some esteem from your buds on discussion lists."

For which I call you delusional and completely out of touch what is going on, as I read just about every article on BB written in the past week.. and do not recall anyone talking about criminal proceedings, and when I call you on this you come back with the Greg Easterbrook pats fans thread from ESPN page 2.. you are not only delusional you are out of your f..ing mind..

I invite you to start a thread on the main message board, about how you read that BB should face criminal prosecution because you read it on pats fans board and that the offense of BB is more egregious than Michael Vick or the lies of George Bush... you will be laughed out of town on a rail.. What a joke you are...

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"Being the best doesn't mean you always win. It just means you win more than anyone else".. tweet from Kurt Warner to Tom Brady.

Fogbuster

We'll see who's laughing when all is said and done; we'll all see who's been out of their f-ing mind all this time.

Rather's a loser and has been ever since he went to Vietnam and called the U.S. "evil" while never saying boo about communists who chopped off the heads of village chiefs just to show who the "boss" was, and who routinely raped and murdered women and girls in front of their father's/husbands. Cowardly fruitcake, and now it's all come home to roost. Payback is so painful . People have warned, but some just don't want to listen.



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