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PonyExpress · 07-16-2007, 10:21 PM

It's time to stand up and be accounted for. After a tough election, and a tougher war, some politically conservative individuals have been cowed into silence and passivity by the escalating rhetoric from the left. The sing song chorus of defeat is ringing everywhere, and the warping of the American mind continues unabated. "Socialism" disguised as maternalistic politics hides the iron fist behind its back. But there is too much at stake to remain in one's shell for long. The war can still be won, and will be won if the military isn't hogtied by Washington's Lilliputians. Call the white house, senate etc. stand up for yourself and your beliefs in public and private, Don't allow the chorus of defeat to drown out the voices of our soldiers overseas, who know this war can be won if they are given the means to do so. The long knives are being drawn on Capitol Hill and all of us can make a difference in the future of our country, if we care enough to do so. The time is now!

***reflexblue*** · 07-17-2007, 12:32 AM

If you think this war can still be won, or is even a contest your EEG. is as flat as cardboard. And then to throw in a referance to the social democrats,Hitlers Brown shirts,with the night of the long knives is aah,ooh a litttle over the top lets say.You were born to late 1938 was your time, Germany was your place,and Geobbles was your man. He would like you enthusiasm. Your like one of those Japanes soldiers lost on a desert islandin WW11. Who are you to speak to what the soldiers want? Someone I work with got a letter from his nephew serving in Iraq. He read it out loud to everyone .The kid sounded desperat, he spoke of no rest,no water and alot of heat. .They had been looking for the three soldiers that had been captured.At the end of the letter he asked that every one pray for him.

OH yeah what victory are you talking about? Saddoms gone along with his sons,no wmd We already won the war years ago. So again what war are you talking about?

***PressCoverage*** · 07-17-2007, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PonyExpress

It's time to stand up and be accounted for. After a tough election, and a tougher war, some politically conservative individuals have been cowed into silence and passivity by the escalating rhetoric from the left. The sing song chorus of defeat is ringing everywhere, and the warping of the American mind continues unabated. "Socialism" disguised as maternalistic politics hides the iron fist behind its back. But there is too much at stake to remain in one's shell for long. The war can still be won, and will be won if the military isn't hogtied by Washington's Lilliputians. Call the white house, senate etc. stand up for yourself and your beliefs in public and private, Don't allow the chorus of defeat to drown out the voices of our soldiers overseas, who know this war can be won if they are given the means to do so. The long knives are being drawn on Capitol Hill and all of us can make a difference in the future of our country, if we care enough to do so. The time is now!

LOL.... wait... wtf was that?

***DarrylS*** · 07-17-2007, 04:42 AM

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The long knives are being drawn on Capitol Hill and all of us can make a difference in the future of our country, if we care enough to do so. The time is now!

What is the context of the long knives comments, are you referring to the night Hitler went on a killing spree or the British Colonists??

***Patters*** · 07-17-2007, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PonyExpress

It's time to stand up and be accounted for. After a tough election, and a tougher war, some politically conservative individuals have been cowed into silence and passivity by the escalating rhetoric from the left. The sing song chorus of defeat is ringing everywhere, and the warping of the American mind continues unabated. "Socialism" disguised as maternalistic politics hides the iron fist behind its back. But there is too much at stake to remain in one's shell for long. The war can still be won, and will be won if the military isn't hogtied by Washington's Lilliputians. Call the white house, senate etc. stand up for yourself and your beliefs in public and private, Don't allow the chorus of defeat to drown out the voices of our soldiers overseas, who know this war can be won if they are given the means to do so. The long knives are being drawn on Capitol Hill and all of us can make a difference in the future of our country, if we care enough to do so. The time is now!

Conservatives are taking a stand. Rather than following like cowards behind an incompetent leader, they are showing guts by doing the difficult thing and admitting they were wrong.

For instance:

http://www.militarycity.com/polls/2006_main.php

Only 35 percent of the military members polled this year said they approve of the way President Bush is handling the war, while 42 percent said they disapproved.

Just as telling, in this year’s poll only 41 percent of the military said the U.S. should have gone to war in Iraq in the first place, down from 65 percent in 2003.

Also, one third of Republicans disapprove of Bush's handling of the war. See: http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm

And here's an article on some of the courageous conservatives who had the guts to stand up against the war:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...la-home-center

***patsfan13*** · 07-17-2007, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Patters

Conservatives are taking a stand. Rather than following like cowards behind an incompetent leader, they are showing guts by doing the difficult thing and admitting they were wrong.

For instance:

http://www.militarycity.com/polls/2006_main.php

Only 35 percent of the military members polled this year said they approve of the way President Bush is handling the war, while 42 percent said they disapproved.

Just as telling, in this year’s poll only 41 percent of the military said the U.S. should have gone to war in Iraq in the first place, down from 65 percent in 2003.

Also, one third of Republicans disapprove of Bush's handling of the war. See: http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm

And here's an article on some of the courageous conservatives who had the guts to stand up against the war:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...la-home-center

The numbers you speak to may say more about how the mission has been conducted than the purpose of the mission.

It will be interesting to see how Patraeus's surge is viewed by the troops if the politcians don't pull the plug before it is given a chance to succeed.

It is ironic that the left was calling for a change in strategy, voted unanimously for Patraeus, who told them his approach during hearings and now try to cut his legs out from under him politically really shameless and unfait to Patraeus and the troops.

***Patters*** · 07-17-2007, 07:46 AM

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The numbers you speak to may say more about how the mission has been conducted than the purpose of the mission.

It will be interesting to see how Patraeus's surge is viewed by the troops if the politcians don't pull the plug before it is given a chance to succeed.

It is ironic that the left was calling for a change in strategy, voted unanimously for Patraeus, who told them his approach during hearings and now try to cut his legs out from under him politically really shameless and unfair to Patraeus and the troops.

I think Patraeus has been given a chance, but that chance is fast coming to an end and even some conservative Republicans recognize that.

***patsfan13*** · 07-17-2007, 08:23 AM

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I think Patraeus has been given a chance, but that chance is fast coming to an end and even some conservative Republicans recognize that.

The pubbies you are citing are mostly RINO's Patters. Chance? Patraeus said he wouldn't know how things were going until Sept.. The offensive operations didn't START till the middle of June exactly how does one tell already?

Npt much of a chance, but the dems would be horrified if the surge were successful as we know.

Pujo · 07-17-2007, 08:26 AM

Take a stand, go nuts.

But at what point would you concede failure in Iraq? I can't imagine you'd never concede failure, only a fool wouldn't know when it was time to quit. So what would be your benchmark? Because to me, what you're saying today could be said next year, or next decade.

***BelichickFan*** · 07-17-2007, 08:42 AM

I'm not sure why this has to turn into "the war". Maybe we should have conceded failure already but this chaos, we now know, was locked in once we dethroned Hussein and the vast majority of Democrats voted for that - including the likely Democrat nominee. So I'm not sure what the point is.

Meanwhile after that long thread on health care I'm wondering how many of our Liberals are planning on going to Canada next time they have health care needs.

I just hope everyone is saving money because our great society programs are going to become more and more unsustainable. I know one thing, when I get my inheritance from my parents, I won't be spending it - I'll be investing it so I have a nestegg to pass on to my kids because saving for retirement will be harder for them than it's been for me with taxes inevitably going up.