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***QuiGon*** · 06-21-2007, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Fogbuster

Putting someone in jail is a lot different from killing them, Ruby Ridge or Waco style. America is on the edge right now and if people want to say they are against the war in Iraq they had better be against killing people for not paying taxes or all their personal credibility goes into the toilet.

The drug dealer analogy is an absolutely retarded one because when the police raid a drug dealer's den, they are doing so with the intent of placing him under arrest and obtaining the necessary evidence to build a case in a court of law. They aren't going to give a drug dealer a couple weeks to destroy the evidence.

In this case, we have criminals that are already found to be in violation of orders. There's no case that needs to be brought against them - they're already guilty. There's no reason to risk anyone's lives when patience is clearly the wisest course of action.

Amazing how the left wing peaceniks in here all of a sudden want another Waco style invasion... I wonder why that is

***mgcolby*** · 06-21-2007, 11:53 AM

Just curious and I don't want to hijack the thread: but if 20 white guys killed a Hispanic man, who was trying to help his hispanic friend, who was trying to help a little girl that he accidentally hit in a parking lot, do you think it would be considered a hate crime? Also do you think it would be all over the news and by all over the news I mean coverage equal to....I don't know...Imus?

Where is the outrage of racism here Patters? Or does the label of racist only apply to white people?

Again if it needs its own thread then feel free to move it.

STFarmy · 06-21-2007, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mgcolby

Just curious and I don't want to hijack the thread: but if 20 white guys killed a Hispanic man, who was trying to help his hispanic friend, who was trying to help a little girl that he accidentally hit in a parking lot, do you think it would be considered a hate crime? Also do you think it would be all over the news and by all over the news I mean coverage equal to....I don't know...Imus?

Where is the outrage of racism here Patters? Or does the label of racist only apply to white people?

Again if it needs its own thread then feel free to move it.

Of course it would mgcolby. The news would have prominently displayed the race of those involved and gladly have insuated a racist motive for the killing. But with this version, I didn't even know it was part of the Juneteenth "celebrations" or that the perps were black until I researched the story more (I just knew that there was more than was being reported for such an odd story). Many stations even made it a point to say that this was not part of the Juneteenth "celebrations" and that it was seperate. You can bet that if this was St. Patrick's Day, it would still be in the news. The media's handling of issues such as this continues to be hypocritical and ridiculous, and I see no reason to think it will change in the future.

***mgcolby*** · 06-21-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by STFarmy

Of course it would mgcolby. The news would have prominently displayed the race of those involved and gladly have insuated a racist motive for the killing. But with this version, I didn't even know it was part of the Juneteenth "celebrations" or that the perps were black until I researched the story more (I just knew that there was more than was being reported for such an odd story). Many stations even made it a point to say that this was not part of the Juneteenth "celebrations" and that it was seperate. You can bet that if this was St. Patrick's Day, it would still be in the news. The media's handling of issues such as this continues to be hypocritical and ridiculous, and I see no reason to think it will change in the future.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/06/20/cra....ap/index.html

CNN did not mention the race of either the person killed or the mob that killed him (how it should be IMO). The police also claim that they have no reason to believe it was a hate crime, even though Black on Hispanic racism is an issue that the media mostly ignores.

***Harry Boy*** · 06-21-2007, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mgcolby

Just curious and I don't want to hijack the thread: but if 20 white guys killed a Hispanic man, who was trying to help his hispanic friend, who was trying to help a little girl that he accidentally hit in a parking lot, do you think it would be considered a hate crime? Also do you think it would be all over the news and by all over the news I mean coverage equal to....I don't know...Imus?

Where is the outrage of racism here Patters? Or does the label of racist only apply to white people?

Again if it needs its own thread then feel free to move it.

The liberal mindset of the politically correct do-gooder is that no Person Of Color is capable of being Racist even if they are beating you to death with a baseball bat all the while screaming "die you white mother f-cker"

The Liberal Will Blame Slavery.

Real World · 06-21-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Patters

Anyone going up there to join the Browns? Screw the other residents of the town. Let's spend as many tax dollars as necessary to treat those criminals with delicacy. After all they're white and conservative.

Real World · 06-21-2007, 01:38 PM

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I don't know. How do we deal with drug pushers who are holed up? Do we wait them out for as long as necessary, while allowing their friends to bring them supplies and allowing them to hold press conferences?

Geez, well what do we do with illegals? Do we catch them and deport them, or do we let them go free again? I've got it, why don't we just make them legal, so that way they're not il-legal anymore.

These people on that hill are not drug dealers. They are considered tax evaders, and there beef is that our income tax is not constitutional. I'm glad that they're bringing to light the gross taxation that american taxpayers are unfairly burdened with. With that in mind, I hope that they are treated accordingly with respect to the law.

BTW, why do some people always make things an issue of race? Weren't the Branch Davidians people white?

Pujo · 06-21-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Real World

These people on that hill are not drug dealers. They are considered tax evaders, and there beef is that our income tax is not constitutional. I'm glad that they're bringing to light the gross taxation that american taxpayers are unfairly burdened with. With that in mind, I hope that they are treated accordingly with respect to the law.

There's no real question about the constitutionality of income tax, the 16th amedment expressly authorizes it. You, and they, may have a point about the taxation being unfair, and you're free to see them as martyrs, but don't make it sound like there's a bona fide legal issue here.

Real World · 06-21-2007, 01:52 PM

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Well, why do you think that we are treating these criminals with kid gloves? Would you favor the same approach for drug pushers holed up? I think we are treating these people this way because they represent a powerful right-wing constituency, which, whether you believe it or not, includes a number of racist militia and survivalist groups. It doesn't really surprise me that someone like QuiGon would indirectly defend these criminals, but why are you defending the massive taxpayer expense of treating these people so gently? And why don't you even respond to my main questions about why we are treating these people so much differently than we would treat other types of holed uip criminals? Also, perhaps you have a photo of their compound showing the interracial makeup of the Brown's supporters.

Yup, it's cuz they are white, and right-wing! That's why we've been rounding up criminal illegals for the last 7 years right? Cuz they aren't right wing and white. Oh wait, my bad, we haven't rounded them up. doh!

Pujo · 06-21-2007, 01:57 PM

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Yup, it's cuz they are white, and right-wing! That's why we've been rounding up criminal illegals for the last 7 years right? Cuz they aren't right wing and white. Oh wait, my bad, we haven't rounded them up. doh!

Please, the only reasons we haven't rounded up illegals are:
1. The cost of such a massive operation, even if they could find half of them.
2. The impact on illegal immigrants' labor, which we need but only talk about in hushed tones.

Race has as little to do with it as it does with the NH case.