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Re: Did the US ok Obama's Family to Charter a jet and leave after 9/11???
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Originally Posted by Holy Diver
innocent family members....
how are you sure they are innocent? the FBI says in one paper that they questioned 20 of 26 people. Then in another they say 15 of 22 people.
why are they not considered 'enemy combatants'? held without a trial and tortured in Cuba?
like everyone else?
You just aren't worth the time. It's freaks like you that lock me in to never vote Democrat because you people repulse me. You make no sense whatsoever and your hatred overwhelms you.
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Re: Did the US ok Obama's Family to Charter a jet and leave after 9/11???
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Originally Posted by BelichickFan
OJ was the suspect. Why are you comparing the two, you make yourself look (fill in the blank).
so......
who exactly WERE the suspects behind the 9-11 plot? and exactly how did we know all of these people were NOT suspects 1 - 2 days after 9-11? How are you so sure that anyone who boarded one of those flights those days while NO OTHER PLANE was allowed to takeoff and leave were not suspects. Anyone with the last name "BIN LADEN" was a suspect.
What made those flights so special that they couldn't wait to take off? The answer to that question is the answer to 9-11.
you've seriously gotta be kidding me with this bull you are throwing at my feet.
Re: Did the US ok Obama's Family to Charter a jet and leave after 9/11???
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Originally Posted by Holy Diver
who exactly WERE the suspects behind the 9-11 plot? and exactly how did we know all of these people were NOT suspects 1 - 2 days after 9-11? How are you so sure that anyone who boarded one of those flights those days while NO OTHER PLANE was allowed to takeoff and leave were not suspects. Anyone with the last name "BIN LADEN" was a suspect.
What made those flights so special that they couldn't wait to take off? The answer to that question is the answer to 9-11.
Well this is the problem with conspiracy theories. I can't disprove it. The suspects were all in foreign countries or died in the airplanes.
Should we have arrested and/or detained OJ's immediate family or anyone with the last name of Simpson ?
Re: Did the US ok Obama's Family to Charter a jet and leave after 9/11???
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Originally Posted by BelichickFan
Well this is the problem with conspiracy theories. I can't disprove it. The suspects were all in foreign countries or died in the airplanes.
Should we have arrested and/or detained OJ's immediate family or anyone with the last name of Simpson ?
thats silly. My point is that these peeps got on a bnch of planes when no american was allowed to fly, when people that were related to them were the main supects named by our government.
when apparently 15 hijackers plot with one another to kill thousands of people ....its a "conspiracy". Meaning they conspire to comit murder. How can you find it so easy to believe the conspiracy that you accept as the truth and yet find it difficult to 'prove' otherwise, because its a conspiracy theory.
Re: Did the US ok Obama's Family to Charter a jet and leave after 9/11???
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Originally Posted by Holy Diver
thats silly. My point is that these peeps got on a bnch of planes when no american was allowed to fly, when people that were related to them were the main supects named by our government.
when apparently 15 hijackers plot with one another to kill thousands of people ....its a "conspiracy". Meaning they conspire to comit murder. How can you find it so easy to believe the conspiracy that you accept as the truth and yet find it difficult to 'prove' otherwise, because its a conspiracy theory.
Its just like Bush calling out Iran for helping the terrorists while nothing is mentioned concerning Saudi Arabia which is currently contributing to the terrorists.
"FAHRENHEIT 9/11: 'At least six private jets and nearly two dozen commercial planes carried the Saudis and the bin Ladens out of the U.S. after September 13th. In all, 142 Saudis, including 24 members of the bin Laden family, were allowed to leave the country.'
"NOTE: It should be noted that even though the film does not make the allegation, strong evidence has recently come to light that at least one private plane flew to pick up Saudi nationals while private flights were still grounded. Moreover, for nearly three years, the White House has denied that this flight existed. This was reported in the June 9, 2004 St. Petersburg Times article cited below: ...
"'Two days after the Sept. 11 attacks, with most of the nation's air traffic still grounded, a small jet landed at Tampa International Airport, picked up three young Saudi men and left. The men, one of them thought to be a member of the Saudi royal family, were accompanied by a former FBI agent and a former Tampa police officer on the flight to Lexington, Ky. The Saudis then took another flight out of the country.'”
Chop, chop, chop....
We went through this 2 weeks ago, and the 911 Commission clearly stated otherwise in their report.
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Re: Did the US ok Obama's Family to Charter a jet and leave after 9/11???
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That's interesting. Also interesting is that the document was provided to Judicial Watch, which, as you may know, is that same conservative group that made the Clinton White House provide a lot of info it did not want to.
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Re: Did the US ok Obama's Family to Charter a jet and leave after 9/11???
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Originally Posted by GJAJ15
Are Osama Bin Ladens family innocent people?? Do we know that?? Why weren't others given preferential treatment, only saudi's and some other very select ME groups?? There were many other people stuck in the US during this time, and it seems that only these people who were allowed to leave is a tad ironic. One of the questions asked is could have the plane been rented by Osama??
Are they guilty? Is Bob Bundy, Ted Bundy's brother a guilty person? Osama is one of 52 siblings you know. I totally understand what your basic point is, but this is somewhat akin to not putting a cop criminal into general populations, or giving a famous person their own cell. It might be unfair, but there is sometimes some rational invovled, the question is, do you agree with it. For me, things like these are always case by case.
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Re: Did the US ok Obama's Family to Charter a jet and leave after 9/11???
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Originally Posted by Holy Diver
when no american was allowed to fly
Is that true ? Were others allowed private planes ? Honestly I don't know. Was this actually the ONLY plane in the sky for those few days ? I think most likely the government wanted to get them out of the country before some angry mob executed them for what their family member did.
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when people that were related to them were the main supects named by our government.
Boy, I'd hate to live in your United States. My sister kills someone so I get locked up because I'm related to the main suspect. Nice.
Re: Did the US ok Obama's Family to Charter a jet and leave after 9/11???
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Originally Posted by Holy Diver
why are they not considered 'enemy combatants'? held without a trial and tortured in Cuba?
like everyone else?
What a maroon. Like everybody else? I've got 3 muslims working for me, and they aren't commuting from Cuba everyday.
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