Fogbuster

Ain't THAT the truth.

Actually, I could give a fig whether 93 was shot down or not; at least it didn't hit the Capitol or 1600 Penn Ave.

Personally, I see no reason whatsoever for the government to deny it if they *did* shoot down 93. Knowing what they knew, it would have been perfectly acceptable.

The kicker, however, is all the cell phone conversations between loved ones whose family members were on the flight, the ones who called and said they were hijacked and that they were going to try to re-gain control of the plane. I believe they did rush the terrorists but when they did the terrorists simply put the plane into a head-first dive, at which point it was virtually impossible to stop it, especially since the guys counter-punching the al qaeda were not trained pilots and it's damned hard to take control of a plane when you're standing on the ceiling upside down.


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Harry Boy

If flight 93 was shot down Bush the Commander In Chief would have recieved the Congressional Medal Of Honor.

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sdaniels7114

I did that flight several times in the 90's. I used to work as a Flight Instructor out of Fitchburg, MA. Round trip with a fuel stop was a bit over 5 hours. It was charted as the Hudson River Scenic on aviation maps back then. Air Traffic Control permitted you to fly over the river below 600' without a clearance IIRC. West side of the river all the way south from the Tapanzee(?) bridge to the Statue of Liberty. You could only circle the Statue counter clockwise for anti-collision reasons. Then back up the East side. You looked up at the little sky scrapers from that height.

Fogbuster

AHA!! Mystery solved!! Thank you very much!!


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STFarmy

No way MAAAAAAAAAN. The government lies have you all FOOOLED. The bigger lie, the easier it is to believe! Question authority! Kill you TV! Open your eyes! <insert bumper sticker slogan of conspiracy theorist who watched too much X-Files in the late 90s and now has a delusions of grandeur that he/she can solve all governments cover-ups, conspiracies, etc.>

PatsFanInVa

Actually, contrary to Quigs' implicit claim that this is a case of "hindsight is 20/20," you need look no further than your local neighborhood NFL murderer running back's videography to see this claim has been made before (In "The Towering Inferno," these exact weaknesses are actually mentioned in the plot. The tower in that film, insofar as it is anything other than a basic action/disaster movie, serves as commentary on "just building them higher and cheaper.)

Of course the fed "theory" -- that people who don't like America ran big freakin planes into buildings -- is correct.

There's no conspiracy here. But the "blank check" the event was taken to signify as been cashed too many times. Naturally, when people play enough games with the truth, they make nutty conspiracy theories look plausible.

PFnV

Real World

Well, I could see where they would initially deny it was shot down, since that had never been done in our history, and thus the reaction by the public couldn't have been predicted. After the fact, I think we all agree that if they did, or if it happened again, such a course of action would be regrettabley justified. Therefore, if they initially denied it, they are not going to admit it thereafter. Doing so would give people the ability to point at the government and say "so you lied at first? Why? So what else have you lied to us about in the past?"

A possibility anyway.

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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
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PressCoverage

what a profoundly Christian message

Fogbuster

Translation of Pressboy's demented cryptography: he's mad that al qaeda DIDN'T get the White House and Congress.



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PressCoverage

yeah, ummm... wtf are you talking about? that's what you got from that?

you're a worse translator than that first chick they brought in for Matsuzaka...