QuiGon

Remember... these are the people that some of you have no problem with coming into our country, stealing our resources, taking welfare, free health care, etc...

http://washingtontimes.com/national/...1814-2527r.htm

Illegals light border fires to sidetrack U.S. agents

By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
June 19, 2007

U.S. Border Patrol agents seeking to secure the nation's border in some of the country's most pristine national forests are being targeted by illegal aliens, who are using intentionally set fires to burn agents out of observation posts and patrol routes.

maverick4

You are retarded if you think anyone here, from any political spectrum, gladly welcomes news like this.

Mr. Genius, try to think past not just strengthening the borders: what do you propose to do with the dozen million illegals *already here*?

BelichickFan

Round them up at the illegal imigrant rallies and toss them over the wall we should build.

Pujo

Like this guy?
http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...634215,00.html

Oops, turns out he was a citizen!

BelichickFan

Sounds like we lost a good one there

The wording :

"Michael Guzman said his parents were from Mexico, but seven children, including Pedro, were born in California"

makes it sound like he's a citizen based on birth in this country to illegals (as assumption but I bet I'm right) which we need to cut out too.

Pujo

Are you out of your mind? He's a US citizen. Period. Not only would you need to change the law, you'd need to amend the constitution. Or is this one of those cases where you're OK ignoring the constitution because you don't like what it says?

His mother, by the way, seems to be a US citizen as well, as evidenced by the US consulate's assistance (they can only assist nationals).

But the point remains: you can't ignore the law, you can only change it.

BelichickFan

You just have no sense of humor do you ? I guess sarcasm doesn't come across too well here

We need to change the law. Until then, we shouldn't be deporting "citizens" but mistakes are made with everything that doesn't mean we should stop doing anything. Should Brady quit playing if he throws an interception ? What I suggested is what we should do and we should do it as accurately as possible.

Real World

Seal the border, enforce the laws on the books, and as you find them, deport them. It's as easy as 1, 2, 3. Sadly though, political BS, and overall government inefficiency make the easy impossible. Instead, we get sell-outs pushing policy, hacks reciting talking points, and appologists screaming racism.

Welcome to the Banana Republic, and sadly, I'm not talking about the clothing store.

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BelichickFan

The "we can't deport the ones that are already here" thing seems to have about 95% agreement among those on TV. I think Pat Buchanan and probably Hannity are the only ones I've seen who disagree.

Real World

It's a sell out talking point. No one wants to say we can deport them because Latino's would get pissed. This Bill, and issue, is the single biggest scam the citizens of this country will ever have pulled over on them. If this bill passes, a couple of years from now, when everyone is processed, you're going to see some 30+ million people given these "Z" visas. It's the reality no one really discusses. That 12 million figure people throw out will easily be doubled. Plus, the bill states that the Amnestied criminals will be able to bring in family that haven't infiltrated us yet.

Banana Republic I say.

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