Originally Posted by Lifer

so? was that good? What teenage kid doesnt want to have sex as often as possible? So in that case, we as a society should just basically shut it down, throw are hands up, and never, as parents, as teachers, as religious leaders in the community, offer an alternative?

just throw the kids some rubbers and hand out planned parenthoods phone number?

come to think, thats what a whole lot of people do. And thats why our kids are the way they are and thats why there are so many abortions. Not just by kids either. Adults who were raised this way live this way. And that is very sad.

Originally Posted by Real World

You really aren't from Boulder Colorado are you?

Originally Posted by Lifer

ok, ok...WHAT is in Boulder,Colorado????

Originally Posted by All_Around_Brown

POW!!!

The right loves the abortion issue. It makes them appear to give a flying eff about someone other than their own self interests. It is also the wedge issue that keeps on giving. They wont overturn Roe V Wade, it helps them win elections. Ergo, they are more than willing to sacrifice fetuses if it means winning elections. How sick is that?

Originally Posted by All_Around_Brown

After birth, its an entirely different problem as most Republicans routinely turn their backs on the needs of people. Pro-life, until birth. But the greatest "conservative" hypocrisy is that which states that the government has no right to meddle in peoples personal lives, but are more than willing to forego private decisions in favor of big goverment intrusion into a decision between a woman and her doctor.

Hypocrites

Originally Posted by PF1996

Let’s not forget their sick willingness to condemn an actual child to a home/life of poverty, neglect and abuse in the course of promoting their obsession with "punishing" women whose sexual behaviour does not meet with their approval.

Originally Posted by PF1996

You describe perfectly the senseless selfishness of the “conservative”. These are people who devote their time to terrorizing women in order to force the creation of yet another unwanted child. They do this despite the current existence of thousands of unwanted children in foster care. Their obsession with denying women their basic human rights and corresponding disinterest in the status of those thousands of unwanted children clearly illustrate that “pro-lifers” claimed “concern for life” is nothing but a sham intended to mask their sexist, religious and oppressive agenda.

I don’t know which is more ironic - that people who claim to “be for children” view pregnancy and the birth of a child as proper punishment (i.e “accountability") for “slutty” women or that the same people most interested in forcing a woman to bear an unwanted pregnancy are the most vociferous opponents of welfare and other social programs intended to help those who are most hampered by unwanted pregnancies.

Originally Posted by PF1996

Let’s not forget their sick willingness to condemn an actual child to a home/life of poverty, neglect and abuse in the course of promoting their obsession with "punishing" women whose sexual behaviour does not meet with their approval.

so only conservatives are Pro-Life?? What a ridiculous counter argument. Basically, "well im for abortion because conservatives are against caring for children after they are born"

What an assumption and twisted logic! Im against abortion. Im also against the death penalty. Against the Iraq War. Im for National Health Insurance. Im for Gun Control. Does that make me a conservative?

We should be talking up adoption in this country. We should be fully funding Head Start. We need to better health care and education for mothers and children. And abortion is horrible.
So instead of changing the discussion into a referendum on Republi9can fiscal policy, lets get back to abortion, shall we?



You describe perfectly the senseless selfishness of the “conservative”. These are people who devote their time to terrorizing women in order to force the creation of yet another unwanted child. They do this despite the current existence of thousands of unwanted children in foster care. Their obsession with denying women their basic human rights and corresponding disinterest in the status of those thousands of unwanted children clearly illustrate that “pro-lifers” claimed “concern for life” is nothing but a sham intended to mask their sexist, religious and oppressive agenda.

I don’t know which is more ironic - that people who claim to “be for children” view pregnancy and the birth of a child as proper punishment (i.e “accountability") for “slutty” women or that the same people most interested in forcing a woman to bear an unwanted pregnancy are the most vociferous opponents of welfare and other social programs intended to help those who are most hampered by unwanted pregnancies.