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Old 06-15-2007, 12:31 AM   #1
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Several Utah school districts have just hired a total of 12 new teachers from Mexico. The State Office of Education has been working on the plan for almost a year. This is part of an agreement Governor Huntsman made with Mexico when he visited there a couple years ago.

School districts say they're happy about it. The teachers will be filling positions that districts can't seem to staff right now. At the same time, the teachers will help a growing population of Hispanic students in the state. School districts are having a harder and harder time finding elementary school teachers, science and math teachers.

Human Resources Director for Granite School District Mike Fraser says, "Right now, as we speak, we still have 30 elementary positions to fill."
But the Granite District has just filled three of those spots with teachers from Mexico. "We think it's going to be very exciting," Fraser says. "These are very qualified teaching candidates who are proficient in English."

The Granite district was one of four school districts in Utah to send employees to Mexico where they interviewed over 50 teachers that the Mexican Consulate had pre-screened. Other districts include Salt Lake, Tooele County and Davis County. "Each school district selected three teaching candidates to bring back to Salt Lake City," Fraser says.

Most of the 12 teachers will speak English in the classroom with the exception of those hired for dual immersion programs. The Granite District says the teachers will be a great help to Spanish-speaking students and their parents, who often feel left out of their child's education. "They're very intimidated to come to the school, show up at parent-teacher consultation because of that language barrier," Fraser explains.

Mark Peterson with the Utah Office of Education says, "If the teacher happens to be teaching math or science or whatever, if they speak Spanish, it's a bonus."

The three teachers Granite hired all have at least six years of experience and one has her MBA. The state says it's glad to have that kind of quality from anywhere. Peterson says, "At the moment, Utah can use highly qualified teachers wherever we can get them from, which is why the districts are out recruiting out of state, and this is just a little further out of state than normal."
The teachers will arrive in early August. They'll make a salary of around $35,000, compared to about $12,000 in Mexico. The state is helping the teachers get a temporary work visa which would allow them to stay here up to three years.

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Was watching Sprout last night with my 2 year old nephew, and they were doing hop scotch in spanish. For a second I thought someone had mistakeningly put on the spanish channel, but it was indeed on Sprout.
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When The Politician Bastards Want Something And They Know The People Don't Want It They Will Find A Way To Ram Down The Peoples Throat They Just Did It With Homosexual Marriage.

The NEW FAR LEFT LIBERAL DEMOCRATS are slowly taking your right to speak, your civil liberties and your right to vote away from you.
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Nazi Bastards Thompson For President

When The Politician Bastards Want Something And They Know The People Don't Want It They Will Find A Way To Ram Down The Peoples Throat They Just Did It With Homosexual Marriage.

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God, Harry, what a gloomy view for someone who has lived through so much. Politics today is no different than it was before.

Just face it that the age of Reagan is over. It lasted 27 years, which may not be as good as the 48 years of liberalism that started with Roosevelt, but it's a long time, and has had an impact. The pendulum is starting to swing back to the left. Speaking from experience, you might not like that swing, but you get used to it.
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Yeah, it'd be much better if they left those positions unstaffed, rather than hiring qualified teachers from Mexico. This is where the difference between people who dislike illegal immigrants and those who dislike all immigrants becomes evident.
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Yeah, it'd be much better if they left those positions unstaffed, rather than hiring qualified teachers from Mexico. This is where the difference between people who dislike illegal immigrants and those who dislike all immigrants becomes evident.
I have no problem with what they're doing. In fact, it points to all that I've said regarding immigration, and why it has to be controlled and regulated. Immigration is comprehensive. These 12 migrants are educated, skilled, and affluent in our language. They are not the uneducated, low skilled red ink that has invaded us from our southern border. Beyond that, they are documented, and are LEGAL. Now, would you want the US to accept 1 million new teachers from Mexico? Of course not. Why? Cuz it might negatively effect the employment of citizen teachers. See, everything needs to be done with a plan in mind. What is going on now is wrong on a multitude of angles.

BTW, obviously for some it will always be about race, just as for others it will always be about emotion, or politics. It's why you need to listen to people who make a sensible case, and not an emotionally based one. Emotion=irrational.
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I have no problem with what they're doing. In fact, it points to all that I've said regarding immigration, and why it has to be controlled and regulated. Immigration is comprehensive. These 12 migrants are educated, skilled, and affluent in our language. They are not the uneducated, low skilled red ink that has invaded us from our southern border. Beyond that, they are documented, and are LEGAL. Now, would you want the US to accept 1 million new teachers from Mexico? Of course not. Why? Cuz it might negatively effect the employment of citizen teachers. See, everything needs to be done with a plan in mind. What is going on now is wrong on a multitude of angles.

BTW, obviously for some it will always be about race, just as for others it will always be about emotion, or politics. It's why you need to listen to people who make a sensible case, and not an emotionally based one. Emotion=irrational.
I don't get the impression that you oppose immigration for racial reasons, but can you see how your Sprout-in-Spanish comment would cause one to wonder?
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I have no problem with what they're doing. In fact, it points to all that I've said regarding immigration, and why it has to be controlled and regulated. Immigration is comprehensive. These 12 migrants are educated, skilled, and affluent in our language. They are not the uneducated, low skilled red ink that has invaded us from our southern border. Beyond that, they are documented, and are LEGAL. Now, would you want the US to accept 1 million new teachers from Mexico? Of course not. Why? Cuz it might negatively effect the employment of citizen teachers. See, everything needs to be done with a plan in mind. What is going on now is wrong on a multitude of angles.

BTW, obviously for some it will always be about race, just as for others it will always be about emotion, or politics. It's why you need to listen to people who make a sensible case, and not an emotionally based one. Emotion=irrational.
Well said.

Also, I object to the term "race" being used in reference to Mexicans. There is no "Mexican" or "Hispanic" race at all. People who speak Spanish are not a part of any particular race. Even groups like Dominicans have a diverse racial makeup. DO you think Alberto Fujimori was a member of the "Hispanic" race because he was Peruvian? Are David Ortiz and Gerry Garcia a member of the same race? That's like saying Edgar Winter and Michael Jordan are both members of the "English" race.

Just a pet peive of mine...language, that is. Thanks for listening.

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Well said.

Also, I object to the term "race" being used in reference to Mexicans. There is no "Mexican" or "Hispanic" race at all. People who speak Spanish are not a part of any particular race. Even groups like Dominicans have a diverse racial makeup. DO you think Alberto Fujimori was a member of the "Hispanic" race because he was Peruvian? Are David Ortiz and Gerry Garcia a member of the same race? That's like saying Edgar Winter and Michael Jordan are both members of the "English" race.

Just a pet peive of mine...language, that is. Thanks for listening.
You're right that the term "race", as used colloqually, isn't scientifically sound. Then again scientists aren't sure there's enough of a difference between any of the "races" to qualify for the term. What's meant by race in this context is "culture", and people who are called "racists" should be called xenophobes. But race is the prevelant word today, and as long as we all know what we mean, then it's OK.
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Arnold gets it :

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""You've got to turn off the Spanish television set" and avoid Spanish-language television, books and newspapers, the Republican governor said Wednesday night at the annual convention of the National Association of Hispanic Journalists.

"You're just forced to speak English, and that just makes you learn the language faster," Schwarzenegger said.

"I know this sounds odd and this is the politically incorrect thing to say, and I'm going to get myself in trouble," he said, noting that he rarely spoke German and was forced to learn English when he emigrated from Austria."


Learn the language or you'll have trouble succeeding - what a concept.
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