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Well, once again we are being told to expect a vote on whether or not gay marriage will be sent to the ballot for the people to decide. Gee, what a novel concept. The people deciding.!!
Personally, I don't have my hopes up. I doubt the gutless legislators will take a vote tomorrow. They'll just table the issue again (and again and again and again)....
But let's be honest here... they're tabling the issue until they feel they have the votes to win (so if they feel they have the votes, then they wouldn't table the issue). That's why tomorrow is most likely a lose-lose scenario for the citizens of the Commonwealth. Hey, I hope I'm wrong but I would be amazed if it actually passed....
Thanks to Nancy Pelosi the whore and Teddy Kennedy the drunk murderer, the citizens lose again..!!
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It's going to be close. There are a handful of people who are undecided. Do they want to risk civil rights by giving in to the bigots or don't they? Do they want to give bigots a chance to protect their special rights? We'll find out tomorrow.
Meanwhile, though, on some aspects of gay rights even right-wing extremists like Bob Barr are finally waking up:
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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him." Leo Tolstoy, 1897
Marriage is not a right, it's a privilege. There's no civil rights issue. Love and make love to whoever you want; that's your right. Marriage ? No. Society doesn't approve of it just like we don't approve of polygamy. Quit talking about civil rights until we make gays sit at the back of the bus or use separate restrooms
Well, once again we are being told to expect a vote on whether or not gay marriage will be sent to the ballot for the people to decide. Gee, what a novel concept. The people deciding.!!
Personally, I don't have my hopes up. I doubt the gutless legislators will take a vote tomorrow. They'll just table the issue again (and again and again and again)....
But let's be honest here... they're tabling the issue until they feel they have the votes to win (so if they feel they have the votes, then they wouldn't table the issue). That's why tomorrow is most likely a lose-lose scenario for the citizens of the Commonwealth. Hey, I hope I'm wrong but I would be amazed if it actually passed....
Thanks to Nancy Pelosi the whore and Teddy Kennedy the drunk murderer, the citizens lose again..!!
what a forgettable POS you are... how is Nancy Pelosi a "whore?"
Marriage is not a right, it's a privilege. There's no civil rights issue. Love and make love to whoever you want; that's your right. Marriage ? No. Society doesn't approve of it just like we don't approve of polygamy. Quit talking about civil rights until we make gays sit at the back of the bus or use separate restrooms
How is marriage not a civil right? It entails tangible benefits (hospital visitation, taxes, estate, etc.). I could see your point with regard to a church marriage, but a marriage sanctioned by the state is another matter altogether. And there are a lot of things society didn't approve of at one point or another. Certainly, interracial marriage is a good example of that.
How is marriage not a civil right? It entails tangible benefits (hospital visitation, taxes, estate, etc.). I could see your point with regard to a church marriage, but a marriage sanctioned by the state is another matter altogether. And there are a lot of things society didn't approve of at one point or another. Certainly, interracial marriage is a good example of that.
If you want to talk about civil unions with a few of the "rights" of marriage, fine. But marriage is a privilege bestowed on a societal approved union - if not I'll marry that cute single chick at work for when my wife has other plans. I still don't know what tax benefits we get, some of us get killed on Roth IRAs - and I don't think there should be social security survivor benefits for any couple other than for used to be stay at home moms. No adoption either, sorry. You want civil unions for inheritance and medical decisions, have at it.
It's going to be close. There are a handful of people who are undecided. Do they want to risk civil rights by giving in to the bigots or don't they?
There is no more a "civil right" for a man to marry another man than there is for a man to marry 6 women, his brother, his uncle and his 2 golden retrievers.
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Meanwhile, though, on some aspects of gay rights even right-wing extremists like Bob Barr are finally waking up:
It amuses me how you're always bragging about people coming around to support gay rights. If that's true, then why are you so terrified of a public referendum...? After all, Massachusetts is a liberal state so gay marriage is a shoo-in to pass, right...?
That's what I say.... they're just going to keep postponing and postponing until they can bribe, threaten and cajole enough legislators to change sides.
Nancy Pelosi the whore has more authority in Massachusetts than 150,000 citizens. Interesting...
Will democracy win or be stifled tomorrow..?
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