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You don't think it can help underscore personal responsibility for issues that kids learn about on the internet, on tv, and in the schoolyard?
I'm just saying that every brick added to the "become a loser" wall is one more brick I have to undo. Maybe TV, friends and the internet build most of the wall but I don't need supposedly grown up people making it even higher.
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I'm just saying that every brick added to the "become a loser" wall is one more brick I have to undo. Maybe TV, friends and the internet build most of the wall but I don't need supposedly grown up people making it even higher.
In all fairness, I didn't listen to the audio (but did read the article). I agree it's quite possible to have a totally inappropriate presentation, but it's also possible to have a presentation that presents multiple points of view and teaches kids to take the issues seriously and perhaps even underscores the values that the parents are trying to instill, even if some people in the panel do not share those values.
It just makes parents' jobs harder. It's bad enough to have to compete with the temptations that the unknown and exciting present to kids - the last thing I need as a parent is some assshole authority type figure telling my kids that it's OK to try drugs, that makes it THAT much harder to disuade them.
How's the current drug war working, wipe out drugs yet? Maybe if you treat high-school aged kids as people who you can have a conversation with, instead of passive vessels you can indoctrinate, they'd make better decisions.
You telling a kid "don't do drugs" over and over is a waste of both of your time. Be honest about the ups and the downs and you might just make em think.
Kids are too smart to fall for it when you only give them half the story.
Kids are too smart to fall for it when you only give them half the story.
It's up to me to give them the sides I see fit, not some schmuck.
I'm not the "stuck in the mud" loser you might think, I have no problem with them drinking and having sex RESPONSIBLY before many here may think they should. Drugs, that's another story and it's up to me to try to influence them as I see fit.
Perhaps some of you live in quaint little villages where kids don't have access to all sorts of information that's inappropriate. I think kids today see pornography on the internet, sex crimes on the tv, and get all sorts of info from their friends. To have adults talking about it intelligently and responsibly is not harmful, but again it must be intelligent, thoughtful, responsible, and the aim must be to get kids to take these issues seriously and understand that if they don't want to get STDs and other diseases they need to know the facts. Keeping kids in the dark I don't believe is any more effective then giving them information and encouraging to think responsibly.
So telling kids to do drugs cuz they are going to do it anyway is intelligent and responsible?
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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him." Leo Tolstoy, 1897
In all fairness, I didn't listen to the audio (but did read the article). I agree it's quite possible to have a totally inappropriate presentation, but it's also possible to have a presentation that presents multiple points of view and teaches kids to take the issues seriously and perhaps even underscores the values that the parents are trying to instill, even if some people in the panel do not share those values.
Read the transcript, and listen to the audio, I did.
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You telling a kid "don't do drugs" over and over is a waste of both of your time. .
More bottom-line-kind-of-guy logic I guess.
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It's up to me to give them the sides I see fit, not some schmuck.
I'm not the "stuck in the mud" loser you might think, I have no problem with them drinking and having sex RESPONSIBLY before many here may think they should. Drugs, that's another story and it's up to me to try to influence them as I see fit.
The school board in no way be REQUIRING people's children to have to listen to this crap. Parents should raise kids, not these lunatic losers who abort their weekend bender, do drugs and prescribe them to 7 year olds, or who encourage 14 year olds to experiment in homosexual relationships. This is certifiable trash that my tax money is forced to go to. The education system in this country is in serious trouble.
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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him." Leo Tolstoy, 1897
It's up to me to give them the sides I see fit, not some schmuck.
I'm not the "stuck in the mud" loser you might think, I have no problem with them drinking and having sex RESPONSIBLY before many here may think they should. Drugs, that's another story and it's up to me to try to influence them as I see fit.
Good luck! You might wanna try locking them in the house and not letting them out if you're afraid there's too much reality out there.
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