maverick4

Neocons, stop trying to paint it like they hate us because it's a religious war by 'crazy' Islam, or because the Middle East hates us for our freedom and democracy.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but WASN'T IRAN A LONG HISTORICAL ALLY before they found out we assassinated their democratically elected leader? They didn't find out the truth until the late 1970's, we tried to hide it and lie.


The real reason we are going to attack Iran is because of the power of AIPAC, and because we have to protect the petrodollar. Just tell it like it is, the lies are pathetic.

Turd Furguson

1953 you say?


What, cant go back in time any further? Perhaps Marty McFly is our only hope in this great big global mess. What shenanigans is that Biff Tannen up to now?

QuiGon

Yup... just more of the same from the "Blame America First" crowd... nothing we haven't seen before from the usual people who make that the creed they live by...

pats-blue

If your going to try and pull stuff out of your ***** at least try and get your facts right. No one was assasinated in fact the PM was relieved of his duties by the Shah but he refused and was replaced in a military coup. Even Mohammed Mosaddeq closest allies stated his dissolving parliment to avoid impeachment was UNCONSTITUTIONAL. I have no doubts that the Brits and US were not helping the Shah for the good of the government of Iran but for oil interests...but since your post FIRST is not correct (big surprise) NO ONE WAS ASSASINATED (nice try..where did you pick that gem up?). SECOND Mohammed Mosaddeq tried to dissolve the Iraninan Parliment in an UNCONSITUTONAL procedure that even his allies did not agree with. So while the US and Brits motives I am sure were not "pure", Mohammed Mosaddeq was not the "leader" you make him out to be. He did things against the CONTITUTION of Iran and got called on it and when he did he got outsted when he reused to step down. OH and he lived until 1967 so he seemed to live years after he was "assasinated" Nice job with the facts!

QuiGon

Since when do facts get in the way of Maverick's extreme ignorance...? He is long established as this forum resident idiot.

Turd Furguson

Maverick's usual platform is to blame Israel. I'm suprised he's changed his target.

Allah Ackbar Maverick!

PressCoverage

and so what does that make YOU? the forum's resident hyperactive child? ...

fact is, the U.S. overthrew their government, and that set the stage for that nation's revolution... we attempted the same in Guatemala a year later... and then, well, Cuba...

the Islamic government of Ayatollah Khomeini supported terrorist attacks against American interests largely because of the long American history of supporting the shah's suppressive regime.... even under more moderate rulers, many Iranians still resent the United States' role in the coup and its support of the shah....

but don't let facts get in the way of your curious righty police-state version of truth...

patsfan13

Didn't go back far enough they hate us brcause of the Crusades.

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pats-blue

Funny my girlfriend is Iranian and her family lived under the Shah and had to ESCAPE Iran after the Ayatollah came into power...last time I checked he wasn't elected either. For the record we didn't overthrow thier government, we supported thier government by assisting them in getting rid of a PM that was violating thier constitution....but thanks for the revisionist history lesson.

My girlfriends family would STRONGLY disagree with you on the "moderate" rulers and "Iranians" resentment of the US for support of the Shah...I know about 30 Iranians that lived there...how many do you know?

PressCoverage

what are you, 7? are you next gonna suggest your dad can beat up my dad? i don't really give a ***** how many Iranians you know...

i'm well aware that the student population there wants change, and the older secular generation is largely the ones holding resentment... what is your point?... there are still widespread resentments for our meddling in their affairs for decades... meddling that Boy King and his cabal are evidently trying all over again... their rulers trust us no less than ours trust them... wonder why? which country has infiltrated the other?

your semantics argument aside, the U.S., while not doing the actual overthrow, certainly played a huge role in the process...