Originally Posted by maverick4

Well, it will still probably be less than the 2 TRILLION we have spent on the Iraq War.

Originally Posted by maverick4

Well, it will still probably be less than the 2 TRILLION we have spent on the Iraq War.

Originally Posted by Real World

Was over my parents for dinner last night, and they were telling me (Carter story came on the news) of how brutal he was as a president. That unemployment was rampant, that entitlements were everywhere, and that there was massive fraud with those etitlement programs. They said he was awefull. I was 4 years old, so who knows. Anyhow, I looked up unemployment under his term:

Originally Posted by Real World

There we go, Iraq war. It never fails. Talk about the price of Banana's, and someone brings up the Iraq war.

Originally Posted by pats-blue

What you surprised? This is a guy who says YOUR economics are out of date and that crude oil isn't strongly connected to the price of gas..

Originally Posted by Fogbuster

Uh-h, no. You need to go to the original sources. Read Karl Marx's "Das Kapital", and his other works. They outline his justification for violent revolution as the "only means" to resolve the inequities of the free market system. Marx -- as well as his chief collaborator (and off of whom he sponged his existence for some decades) Freiderich Engels created a very systematic justification for: the denial of God and all religions (because it "only served to keep the rich capitalists and their toady bourgeoisie in power by being the 'opiate of the masses'"), the killing of any who stand in the way of "the revolution", the total take-over of the entire world under the banner of "workers of the world unite", and so forth.

Marx built his comprehensive world view based on materialism by modeling after Georg Hegel, the German philosopher who created a systematic view of life, covering everything from the theory of education to the purpose of art. Hegel was not a pure materialist, but some of his later students, called the "Left Hegelians", took Hegel's comprehensive world view and rooted it in the Darwinistic theory of "accidental life": put some base materials in a bowl long enough and sooner or later the right flash of energy will appear to set those elements into motion, thus creating life. A very useful view when one wants to deny the existence of God: everything "just happened"; no Creator was necessary. The reason for this was to avoid at all costs any notion that the Creator might have plan and a purpose for doing His creation. The last thing a materialist wants is an innate "purpose" because that requires some sense of law that is *above* human origin. First, last, and always, Marx, Darwin, and all materialists are pure humanists with no need for God; indeed there is an innate hostility to even the notion of God. "Man is god" is the theory of the materialist, and communism is 100% rooted in materialism.

People like V.I. Lenin then adopted Marxism to their local areas of operation -- Russia, China, Cuba, Vietnam, where ever -- and based all values on the notion that there is no God of Creation; humans do everything all on their own. For a man who went public to profess to be a "born again Christian", Jimmy Carter sure did give a long leash to those who were out to destroy any values that are based on an eternal God of creation and the reality of Jesus, the Son of God who came to bring us back home while here on the earth.

For communism's revolution to succeed there must not remain one iota of consideration of God, the spiritual soul of man, the life that is eternal. Thus, communism must totally dominate the entire world and exterminate all opposition (the "counter-revolutionaries") in order to succeed. Trouble is, even if communism were to succeed, the fundamental idea of the "dialectic", which says there will ALWAYS be confliict between all individuals, that, indeed, "conflict is only constant in life", means that there can never be peace on earth or heaven. Never.

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