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Why doesn't Matthews deserve to be in jail forever? The kid he killed is certainly dead forever. Matthews wasn't "severely broken", he was (and is) simply a sadistic person without regard for the lives of others and lacking in empathy. I don't understand why some people seem unable to accept the fact that some humans are innately evil and are solely responsible for their actions (it wasn't "society" or "the voices") The widespread advocation against, and abdication of, individual responsibility is one of the driving forces behind crime and poverty in America.
An example of simple sadism would be being happy when something bad happens to someone you don't like. Everyone feels that way sometime. What Mathews did is much more. I liken it to the way this board was after the Colts beat the Pats last January(minor, normal depression) vs somebody putting a gun to their head(Clinical Depression.) The difference is so great that its not a matter of degree, they're two separate things altogether.
I'm not so sure he should even be classed as a human being. So I don't think he should be entitled to the same civil liberties (like parole or the right to refuse medical treatment) that some car thief gets. Finally, what you call his permanent residence, a hospital, or a jail is less important to me than whether there's bars on the windows. I don't want him out, I just don't find it necessary to lay criminal blame at his feet to keep him in.
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Actually what's unfortunate is that an individual who planned and carried out the death of a teenager is still alive and has an opportunity to live as a free man in society. He was sent to prison not because he was a "bad person" but because he murdered a kid. That kid isn't going to rise from the dead if it so happens that a sociopath has "completely changed".
This has got to be one of the stupidest things I've read on the web. So, it would be okay to call an 18 yr old murderer a "scumbag"? Or it would be okay if he hadn't "accepted responsibility"? How is referring to this sicko as a "sumbag" counterproductive? And to what? By the way...I find it sadly amusing the weight some people give to murderers admitting (typically after being caught AND being found guilty AND sentencing) their culpability. After all, they did do the crime, didn't they? It's not as though they are "accepting responsibility" for something they didn't do
Shows the ridiculousness of criminal sentences in America. It's such a joke to give a double life sentence when you're going to release the guy in ten years. You don't know that he never had another problem and it's highly likely that someone who kills TWO people in a non-defense situation probably has killed before and killed after. That he didn't get caught after he was released isn't proof that he hasn't committed any subsequent murders. However, it wouldn't even matter if he really didn't commit any crimes after his release. He killed two individuals and as such should not have ever been allowed back into society.
Fine...then let's execute more of them The criminal system is "overburdened" because legislators and judges have lost sight of the fact that prison is supposed to be punishment. We can reduce the costs incurred by prisoners by making them responsible for their clothing and food, eliminating amenities like libraries and gyms and televisions and building prisons to minimize the number of necessary administrative personnel. Costs would probably decline significantly but then the whines from the "inhumane treatment" crowd would increase and we can't have that, can we
Oh my! I agree with the 11 year old! Although I'd fry more people than we currently do. As in, no chance for parole, extra crispy. Murder someone in cold blood? Mazolla corn goodness. But that's just me.
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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him." Leo Tolstoy, 1897
Fine, every person who commits a murder is put to death in your perfect world. I guess thats an eye for an eye which is total B.S.
Why is that total BS? Someone that brutally murders someone in cold blood should suffer the same end. IMO.
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I agree with that, but must stipulate that the case against such murderer must be fully established with DNA evidence that is uncompromisable...
we can probably all agree on that, right??
Yeah but what about if the cops were out to get them or something? You know, OJ deserved to get off regardless of what the DNA testing stated cuz the cops were out to get him, or something like that.
(I'm being a dink and am not directing this at you ABB)
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No, I haven't. I am not a big drinker and never really have been. Even in college on that rare occassion when I got too drunk to drive anywhere, I would just walk back to the dorms. I was too scared to do anything that stupid when I was in the Navy and too mature by the time I got out.
You're analogy is moronic. This isn't someone who was momentarily careless, or had too much to drink, or acted impulsively. I can look at a drunk driver and admit he is not the scum of the earth.
But this scumbag premeditated the entire thing, meticulously planned his assault, selected a local kid, lured him away from safety, and beat him to death with a bat. He did everything he could in preparation and then after the fact to cover up his act. His motive was he just wanted to know how it would feel.
I wasn't trying to equate drinking and driveing with this case. Obviously this kid commited a horrific crime,so grotesque he had to have some sort of psychiatric problem, he wasn't sane.The point is many sane people consiously get behind the wheel of a car knowing their breaking the law and could possibly maim or kill someone,but do it any-way Then sit back and pass judgment on other peoples actions. We wern't in the court room,but if this kid did what you said he would have gotten murder#1.As far as a moment of carelesness goes tell that to the victams of drunk-driveing like ME,I can't say for sure if you ever drove drunk or not(it seems highly unlikely that at some time you didn't d+d).But I can say this with certanty my brother and one of my best friends were killed in seperate accidents by drunk drivers.Both were twent-seven years old and had their whole life ahead of them.
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The widespread advocation against, and abdication of, individual responsibility is one of the driving forces behind crime and poverty in America.
But that's just me.
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