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Old 05-16-2007, 02:30 PM   #21
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One good solution would be to deport any illegal immigrant that commits a felony and strengthen our borders. But you won't support that, will you..?

You are presumptious and prejudicial, I have no problem with that.. don't assume QuiCon.
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One good solution would be to deport any illegal immigrant that commits a felony and strengthen our borders. But you won't support that, will you..?
yes...lets start with your immigrant wife ********.
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yes...lets start with your immigrant wife ********.
My wife is an immigrant..? That's news to me... I guess she's just been foolin' me all this time... Boy am I going to confront her tonight though..!!
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yes...lets start with your immigrant wife ********.
Qui Gon would have never married an immigrant, immigrants aren't good enough for him.
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My wife is an immigrant..? That's news to me... I guess she's just been foolin' me all this time... Boy am I going to confront her tonight though..!!
see how silly presumptions and assumptions can become??

Hey, my crazy alter ego took over and went overboard once again. I apologize.
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His father ran a middling-sized carpet installation company back when Mathews did this. The father was a decent guy, I knew him a little by reputation since the guy who trained me in the field did some work for him briefly. Nothing about the father's reputation would even vaguely point to this. I don't believe Rod Mathews deserves to be in jail forever, but I'm not so sure 'deserve' should have anything to do with how we treat him. Excuse me for mangling up one of Clint Eastwood's greatest lines Sure if Psychiatry has advanced to the point of fixing whatever is broken with this guy, and make no mistake about it, he was severely broken in '86, then its time to move on and let him out; but I don't think they have. I'm terribly concerned about the fact that he's much older and likely to be more sophisticated in how he'd carry out and cover up future crimes.

Mostly I think the problem here lies in the standard we require for insanity defenses. I'd have no problem with him being found not guilty because of insanity as long as that finding brought a requirement on his part to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he'd never do this again before releasing him from a hospital with bars on the windows. However, in this country a successful insanity defense is perceived as a victory for a criminal scumbag, not a finding that a person is diseased and needs to be separated from the mainstream justice system both in terms of punishment AND future civil rights.
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You are presumptious and prejudicial, I have no problem with that.. don't assume QuiCon.
Well hell's bells, that's great to hear..!! So let's work together to elect the Republican candidate that is actually willing to enact such a policy..!! Because we both know no democrat candidate would ever dream of such a thing...
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HA! I wish I were a busted clock then. I'd be right twice as much as normal.
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You mean the 14 year old who beat a kid with a bat in 1986? The one who was on Ritalin since third grade, that one? I'm not familiar with the case, just googled the above information. Don't know if he's shown remorse or has been rehabilitated. Seems unfortunate that someone at age 14 should spend the rest of their life in prison if they have somehow completely changed.
Actually what's unfortunate is that an individual who planned and carried out the death of a teenager is still alive and has an opportunity to live as a free man in society. He was sent to prison not because he was a "bad person" but because he murdered a kid. That kid isn't going to rise from the dead if it so happens that a sociopath has "completely changed".

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Tough to call a 14 year old a scum bag, he did what he did, and he has accepted responsibility for his behavior.. do not condone what he did, but calling anyone names you do not know is countreproductive.
This has got to be one of the stupidest things I've read on the web. So, it would be okay to call an 18 yr old murderer a "scumbag"? Or it would be okay if he hadn't "accepted responsibility"? How is referring to this sicko as a "sumbag" counterproductive? And to what? By the way...I find it sadly amusing the weight some people give to murderers admitting (typically after being caught AND being found guilty AND sentencing) their culpability. After all, they did do the crime, didn't they? It's not as though they are "accepting responsibility" for something they didn't do

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Roll your eyes all you want, sentences are changed by higher courts.. the reality is in most states 20 years is a long time for someone to do time on a murder rap. Not sympathizing, but this is the reality. Went to school with a guy who was in West Point, on leave shot two guys in the head.. sentenced to life X 2 did ten years and never had another problem. One of the real issues is to keep too many people locked up for too long on the taxpayers dime. It is what it is, an overburdened criminal justice system.. to many inmates, too many correctional officers, too many facilities and a whole bunch of pensions we will all pay for.
Shows the ridiculousness of criminal sentences in America. It's such a joke to give a double life sentence when you're going to release the guy in ten years. You don't know that he never had another problem and it's highly likely that someone who kills TWO people in a non-defense situation probably has killed before and killed after. That he didn't get caught after he was released isn't proof that he hasn't committed any subsequent murders. However, it wouldn't even matter if he really didn't commit any crimes after his release. He killed two individuals and as such should not have ever been allowed back into society.

Fine...then let's execute more of them The criminal system is "overburdened" because legislators and judges have lost sight of the fact that prison is supposed to be punishment. We can reduce the costs incurred by prisoners by making them responsible for their clothing and food, eliminating amenities like libraries and gyms and televisions and building prisons to minimize the number of necessary administrative personnel. Costs would probably decline significantly but then the whines from the "inhumane treatment" crowd would increase and we can't have that, can we
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