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Rev. Sun Myung Moon



Here's a guy the Republicans don't want us to know about.



The Reverend Sun Myung Moon, head of the Unification Church and a self-declared Messiah from South Korea, is a major behind-the-scenes GOP player. His organization owns The Washington Times, the right-wing newspaper Ronald Reagan once called his favorite. Moon said he has pumped over $1 billion into the paper since the Church bought it in 1982. Those poor Moonies had to sell a lot of flowers!



Most folks recognize Moon as a dangerous cult leader who has recruited, brainwashed, and enslaved thousands of unsuspecting students from college campuses since the 1970s.



They also remember the mass weddings he conducted at Yankee and RFK stadiums where thousands of couples were brought together. Critics say church officials arranged the marriages to circumvent American immigration laws.



Moon controls a multibillion dollar tax-free business empire. In the mid-1980s, he served a year in prison for tax evasion. A lesser known fact is that his business operations have competed for, and received, government contracts worth millions of dollars. No ordinary commercial operation can compete with a Moonie shop because you can't beat the low cost of slave labor.



Moon says he's the only person in the world who knows all the secrets of God. Well, isn't he smart? He says he's been the Messiah ever since he ran into Jesus in Korea in 1936. He says Jesus asked him to take over the mission -- the one Moon says Jesus screwed up because He didn't get married.



Moon continues his lifelong pursuit of recognition -- to be crowned the new world Messiah. But he has often complained, "look, I'm doing my best to be the Messiah. You try to be the Messiah." Look, Moonpie -- Jesus never *****ed about it, so clam up!



Moon came to the U.S. in the early 1970s. His organization is said to be not religious, but political. It has connections to South Korean intelligence operations designed to bolster the U.S. commitment to Seoul in case North Korea invades. His clout in Washington increased substantially during the Reagan administration because both Reagan and Moon are rabid anti-Communists.



He has given millions of dollars to a number of Republicans. Paid speakers at his Family Federation for World Peace have included George Bush, William Bennett, Jack Kemp, and Ralph Reed. In the early 1990s, his organization funneled millions to Jerry Falwell's Liberty University when it was facing staggering debts.



And Moon has strange ideas about sex. He's been married four times, but his followers say the first three marriages were not consummated and thus do not count.

Moon once told a conference that misunderstandings about male and female sex organs have led to confusion. He said his theology dictates that the husband owns his wife's sex organs, and vice versa. So if my wife wants to castrate me, that's her right?



And where does he stand on family values? In 1998, his daughter-in-law, Nansook Hong, told 60 Minutes that Moon had cheated on his wife and fathered an illegitimate son. She said he called it "providential affairs." That Moon's got a fancy word for everything, especially when he's been doing something naughty.



Nansook also told of a brutal beating she got from her drug-and-alcohol-addicted husband when she was pregnant. Moon and his wife blamed her, saying it was her fate to suffer. Her fate? Well, screw that! So Nansook fled Moon's high-security compound in Tarrytown, New York, along with her five children.



Moon also has an estranged daughter, Un-Jin. She supports her sister-in-law's story.



And this guy says he's the new Messiah. Yeah, right.

Fogbuster

Facing my own mortalitiy, do I hate it? What's to hate? The physical body declines as we age, no getting around that for anyone. Who wants to be cooped up in a continually degrading shell of a form forever? Not a happy thought.

Fortunately, what we are is much more than the physical bodies we occupy for some 80 to 100 years or so. We also have a spirit self that lives for eternity. Now before we get a lot of posts saying this is "not objective", or "merely opinion or religious doctrine better suited for the 'religion forum'", let's consider one fact: does your mind have a physical form? If you say, "yes", would you please show it to me. Scan it into your post so I can see your "mind" because I really want to see it.

Actually, there is one way to "see" -- even "taste, feel, smell, and hear" another's mind: it is through the things we say, do, and even think while we are using the physical body we have. An artist's painting or a composer's music are examples of this manifestation of the person's mind. You get a good glimpse of Van Gogh or Picasso from their paintings; likewise for Beethoven or Lynyrd Skynyrd, etc.

So, having an invisible spirit self is certainly not beyond the realm of probability, any more than your invisible mind is a certainty.

The final destination of this spirit self, according to virtually all spiritual/religious traditions as well as our common sense, is that place which we created for ourselves over the course of the time we were alive in our physical bodies. Live a life of happiness for others (as well as for self) and that's what you keep forever; live something else and that's what you have.

Improvements are possible after passing on, but this takes a LOT longer without the physical body than when one has a physical body. In fact, that's why we have both: just as the fetus grows inside the mother's womb for 9 months before emerging into the completely new kind of world of the earth, after we do our 90-some years here we move on to the third and final stage of life.

Who doesn't want to live forever? Ask even an old person and they (most) will say they still want to live on, even with a failing body. Everybody wants to live forever. Young people at the peak of life, in particular, think they will naturally. That's because we do, in fact, live forever.


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DarrylS

Hey Foggy no comments on Terry Glenn is a Cowgirls post?? Skip over it if you have to, but your silence is deafening.

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DarrylS

Holy Crap, what a dumbazzz I just figured out the the Rev. Moon is the owner of the Washington times.. what a configuration this has turned out to be.. apparently GWB is preparing for a Moonie lovefest in DC as this paper turns 25 this year.. not sure I would give up any part of my life for this guy to live in a cult.

http://www.motherjones.com/washingto...bush_moon.html

Next month the Washington Times, the conservative newspaper with close ties to every Republican administration since Reagan, celebrates its 25th anniversary. Former President George H.W. Bush will be the headliner.

And the former President deserves the honor. Barbara Bush ought to get a rousing cheer as well. The two of them have been beating the bushes for Reverend Sun Myung Moon for years.

Moon and his Unification Church came to America in the 1970s and quickly plunged into Washington politics. “In the 1970s, church officials organized prayer breakfasts and rallies in support of President Richard M. Nixon, dispatched young female members to infiltrate congressional offices and had extensive ‘operational ties’ with the Korean Central Intelligence Agency as part of the agency's efforts to influence U.S. officials, according to a 1978 report by a House subcommittee,” the Washington Post would later report.

Those ties became fodder for the 1976 Koreagate scandal, which centered around the figure of Washington lobbyist Tongsun Park, a man legendary for his lavish parties and gifts of cash in white envelopes. He, too, was long suspected of being connected to Korean intelligence; he was also an influence peddler of great renown, and anywhere from 30 to more than 100 members of congress were said to be under his thumb at the time. Park was never charged with any crime in connection with Koreagate, but last year he was convicted on conspiracy charges for his role in Saddam Hussein’s United Nations oil-for-food machinations.

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3 to be 4

exactly what "stretch" did i make?

so according to PressCoverage Jerry Falwell = Saddam Hussein.

brilliant.

look, as ive said numerous times i do not care for the type of Christianity Robertson and Falwell practiced, or more accurately, preached.
Falwells comments about 9/11 were idiotic.
But he did not cause all the atrocities done in the worlds in the name of religion and to my knowledge did not kill another person.

to equate him with Saddam Hussein is way over the top and you cant backpeddle from it trying to say im "stretching" what was said.

Falwell said idiotic things. Robertson says even more idiotic things. and the post comparing Falwells death to Husseins is the height of idiocy and ignorance.

And no, i didnt call Hussein Hitler and i dont support the Iraq War. so before you even start.............

363839

Although, you seem to have contradicted yourself from your first line to the last, you make some good points in between.
As far as the spirit or ID or the "I" goes, through your faith you say that it is so. But there is no physical evidence for it. Ideas can be explained away by simply looking at it from the scientific viewpoint that they are merely electical impulses happening inside our mind(brain). This does not disprove the existance of the spirit, though. So keep your faith, Fog. I would not want to try to shake it from you.
Hope is a wonderful thing.

Pujo

Yeah, I felt the same way. I didn't get any more pleasure out of Saddam's hanging than I got out of his living, and the officer and then Kenney being shot was just a tragedy all around. Don't get me wrong, Kenney was responsible and the man that shot him was a hero, but I don't feel any vindication or justice knowing the guy's dead, I just wish the whole event never happened. Death is sad. It's final, and no matter how much of a sleaze someone is, there's usually someone out there who cares about them and is hurt when they die.

363839

From fogbusters post...
"Live a life of happiness for others (as well as for self) and that's what you keep forever; live something else and that's what you have."

I like this line right here.
The Hindus call it Karma.

Pujo

Hindus, along with Buddhists, Jainists, and Sikhs all do have the concept of Karma.

363839

OK, but who are Jainists? Never heard of that group.

I was just thinking of Chevy Chase in vacation...
"....and though the Hindus speak of Karma, we implore thee lord....give her a break" Chevy's impromto eulogy for aunt Edna.