DarrylS

Sure the righties will all feel that the reaction of the police in McArthur park was justified.. but it was all caught on tape, the assault of the Telemundo journalist is telling. Talk about deep poop, this will cost the California Taxpayers millions of dollars in settlements. Haven't seen footage like this since the Democratic Convention in Chicago in the late 60's. Talk about another damaging hit for our international stature, there is stuff all over youtube about this overreaction. Too bad the f....ed up another anthem of the 60's, McArthur Park will never sound the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFdNkXJMH9A

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...home-headlines

One day after several reporters and camera operators were injured while covering an altercation at an immigrant rights rally in MacArthur Park, news organizations condemned the Los Angeles Police Department for its use of batons and riot guns against members of the media, and some said they were considering legal options.

"We are sorry for what happened to our employees and find it unacceptable that they would be abused in that way when they were doing their job," said Alfredo Richard, spokesman for the Spanish-language network Telemundo, of the anchor and the reporter who were hurt during the evening rally.

Other members of the media who were injured included four employees of KVEA-TV Channel 52, a KTTV-TV Channel 11 news reporter who suffered a minor shoulder injury, a camerawoman who has a broken wrist and a reporter for KPCC-FM (89.3) who was bruised by a police baton.

"I was dumbfounded," said the KPCC reporter, Patricia Nazario. "I've covered riots. I've covered chaos. I was never hit or struck or humiliated the way the LAPD violated me yesterday."

Nazario said she was walking away from riot police when she was hit in the back.

Wearing a press pass and holding a microphone, she turned around and told the officer, "Why did you hit me? I'm moving. I'm a reporter," Nazario recalled.

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Real World

Gimme a break. As if this incident is any different than any other police break up of a rally/demonstration any where else in the country. Wow, someone got pushed when the police told them to beat it and they gave the cops lip. Oh no! This crap, and don't get me wrong, it's crap, happens everytime the cops move to break up a gathering of sorts. The rubber bullet crap is no different than what happened here in Boston in 2004 when a young woman died from being hit in the head. It's sad, but it's not Kent St. The overdramatization of this incident by the people who want Amnesty is comical. If I had a $1 for evertime the cops gave me a hard time when there was no reason to I'd have enough cash to buy a nice bottle of booze. Seriously, did the police overreact? When don't they. To call this some catastrophe that is going to "damage our international stature" is somewhat ridiculous.

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Real World

Before people want to strangle me, let me stresss, it is crap (meaning unnecessary BS). However, it's not some Kent St.

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DarrylS

No it is not Kent State, but looks like Chicago during the convention. The grabbing of camera's and hitting the Telemundo Newsbroadcaster is not a good thing. There are ways of breaking up demonstrations, aside from just resorting to violence.

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Pujo

It seems that the cops were baiting protesters, and protesters were baiting cops. The cops have to stay above it or they're no different from criminals themselves. Striking a cameraman who didn't disobey police orders isn't crap, it's a crime. It's not Kent, but had one of those rubber bullets killed someone (as they sometimes do), it would have been even uglier.

Real World

You heard the lady at the beginning say a group of ralliers was antagonizing the police. Once that happens, you give every tough guy with a badge the right to move to disperse. If they feel threatened, they'll use that as a reason. They did. Did they have to? I wasn't there, and I couldn't tell you. Do I think it's possible that they overreacted? Absolutely, it's the LAPD we're talking about here. However, do I think that, again, think, that a hispanic reporter, cameraman, station, etc...might in some way make it seem as if the cops were 100% wrong and evil? Yes, I do. The bottom line here is that this is no different than any other rally, or demostration that takes place in this country. 2003 (or was it '04?) Redsox people. Does it make it right? Of course not. Calling it the worse thing since the 60's and damaging to our international image is a huge, huge stretch.

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Real World

You and I think that way, but they don't, and are probably taught to be that way. Have you ever seen the break up of anything similar where the cops didn't push, nudge, or use some violence to disperse the crowd? I see that and I see nothing different than I've seen before. Of course, the pro-Amnesty people will try to use it as some sign of the racist ideology used against illegal immigrants, or they'll start saying something like "this is what we mean by illegal rights" crap. I'm waiting for the 11 year old to come in here and start tossing out charges of racism.

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DarrylS

I did not say this, what I said was:

"Haven't seen footage like this since the Democratic Convention in Chicago in the late 60's. Talk about another damaging hit for our international stature, there is stuff all over youtube about this overreaction. Too bad the f....ed up another anthem of the 60's, McArthur Park will never sound the same."

This does not say the worse thing since the 60's, what it says is the worse footage I have seen of a police reacting to demonstrators since that time. The damaging hit has to do with this hitting many foreign papers, and the availability of this on the internet. It cannot be a positive thing for our international image.. so it has to be damaging. Beating up women, newscasters and cameramen is not a good thing.

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DarrylS

[QUOTE=Real World;421411 I'm waiting for the 11 year old to come in here and start tossing out charges of racism.[/QUOTE]

Which 11 year old are you talking about?? Do not want to touch the reason for their rally, that would start a whole new firestorm. I know a lot of public safety people, who are equally upset at the reaction of the police.

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Patters

Hey, when I think of a nice bottle of booze, I think about $25. Now, I know I'm older than you, but if I had a buck for every time a cop gave me a hard time, I doubt if I'd be able to buy a six pack of Bud. Wonder what you're doing wrong?