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Old 05-04-2007, 06:09 AM   #31
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time for the news.

anyone know what station the Palestinian News Hour is on? I need to hear the news unfiltered, fair and balanced.
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Old 05-04-2007, 06:52 AM   #32
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i agree with you totally. Im against the war as well. Jesus said "Blessed are the peacemakers"

we just disagree about why the war was faught.

I believe Bush did it for oil. You say its about God telling him too.

btw, do you mock other Christians, who do, in fact, let the Holy spirit lead them in their lives? And if you do, where in the New Testament do you feel Paul was wrong? I mean, im just asking. One Christian to another.
Have you noticed how they will NEVER mock ALLAH.
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:30 PM   #33
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time for the news.

anyone know what station the Palestinian News Hour is on? I need to hear the news unfiltered, fair and balanced.

i see, ... so after coming to a common agreement, you're back to being a jerk without provocation by exaggerating a point your opponent never uttered ...

i never said anything about any Palestinian News Hour... merely that all the media outlets you chirped about picked up on the same story... that detailed minutes were taken quoting the Presidunce as saying God told him to invade Iraq... one among a handful of examples of Bush letting his curious view of God dictate his foreign and domestic policy... ..
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ok, then we agree. Bush did it for greed, and SAYS he follows God. But he doesnt really.
I dont believe Bush really believes God wants rich Texans to become richer. I believe BUSH wants rich Texans to become richer. And tells certain Christians what they want to hear.

But i seperate the 2 types of Christians you describe. Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus say "Keep it to yourself". On the other hand, right wingers who hide behind their Christianity as an excuse to push their political agenda from behind the pulpit and make other Christians believe that to really be a good Christian, you have to follow George Bush, Pat Robertson, and James Dobson...yeah, i agree, thats contemptable.

My stance on abortion comes not from the Republican Party, it comes from what the Bible says about life. Its also from the Word that i get my more "Democratic" leanings towards economic policy, health care, war policy, and capital punishment.

But to any Christian with this idea one should "keep it to themselves" I would only say, where is that consistant with the New Testament?
Bush and his freaky, pasty-faced wierdos in the White House don't care more for the Israelis and Christians than they do for the American People. Their world is peopled by a small group of like-minded profit whores whose sole concern is a sociopathic furor for securing as much wealth as possible. What they need and what they want are totally different concepts to you and I, but they are the same thing to these sub-humans. In this way, their set of beliefs are the furthest thing from the teachings of Christ as can be imagined.

Killing innocent people to protect their economy by securing the supply of oil is against the teachings of Christ. When extracted, refined, and burned, these toxic fuels poison the land, air and water, directly causing disease, environmental degradation, and blight. This too goes against the tenets of Judeo-Christian (whatever that is) faith. The hoarding of wealth while your neighbor suffers and dies from poverty is also anti-Christian.

There is nothing "Christian" about this animal Bush.
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Bush and his freaky, pasty-faced wierdos in the White House don't care more for the Israelis and Christians than they do for the American People. Their world is peopled by a small group of like-minded profit whores whose sole concern is a sociopathic furor for securing as much wealth as possible. What they need and what they want are totally different concepts to you and I, but they are the same thing to these sub-humans. In this way, their set of beliefs are the furthest thing from the teachings of Christ as can be imagined.

Killing innocent people to protect their economy by securing the supply of oil is against the teachings of Christ. When extracted, refined, and burned, these toxic fuels poison the land, air and water, directly causing disease, environmental degradation, and blight. This too goes against the tenets of Judeo-Christian (whatever that is) faith. The hoarding of wealth while your neighbor suffers and dies from poverty is also anti-Christian.

There is nothing "Christian" about this animal Bush.
Exactly. I agree with everything you said.

should this worry me?
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Exactly. I agree with everything you said.

should this worry me?
Not to worry.
I was raised a Christian...can't help it. Although I don't believe in God or his kids, I agree with many of the same universal truths Jesus did. He didn't make them up.
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You might be misunderstanding my point. My point isn't about what policy should be, it's about what policy should not be based on. Policy should never be decided on because of poll numbers. Policy should be based on what is right, lawfull, fair, sane, and common sense. Leaders should not take a poll, and go for whatever plan gets the highest percentage. Leaders have to decide on policy because it makes sense is all I am saying.



Man GS is mopping the floor with the Mavericks. How'd the Mavs win 60+ games? They look so slow.
A fair statement when viewed in the light of current leadership...Republican and Democrat. Unfortunately policy is driven by short term reactionary responses to public uproar. Strategic thought has left the building. Being popular is far more important than being right...at least in Washington.

The Mavericks are toast and their owner looks like he aged 20 years. I guess money can't always buy you happiness..
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A fair statement when viewed in the light of current leadership...Republican and Democrat. Unfortunately policy is driven by short term reactionary responses to public uproar. Strategic thought has left the building. Being popular is far more important than being right...at least in Washington.

The Mavericks are toast and their owner looks like he aged 20 years. I guess money can't always buy you happiness..
Open window, lick finger, check wind. That's what most pols do these days.

Money means less and less in sports these days. The best teams are the ones that run the most efficient operation. Growing talent, trading for players, making sane fiscal decisions, and finding the right coach. Money will make you competitive, but it's no longer the driving factor it used to be.
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time for the news.

anyone know what station the Palestinian News Hour is on? I need to hear the news unfiltered, fair and balanced.
Try channell 666

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even Michael Moore didnt go down that ridiculous road. As a leftie im sure you watch PBS. Before the election in 2004 did you watch the Frontline specials on Bush and Kerry? Did you see the part in Texas when running for Governor when Bush suddenly embraced the religious right?
He doesnt believe this stuff. His own administration makes fun of the fundementalists of "the nuts". His policies havent been at all consistant with anything in scripture. If he is following God, which he is not, it sure isnt the Christian one.
Follow the money trail. He is and always has followed the oil interests of any situation.
Sounds like youve read David Kuo. Hes the one who felt so bilked as a Christian and a top aide to Bush Co that he resigned in disgust- realizing that Bush Co did make it a cornerstone of his presidency to represent the religious (christian) right. In fact, he claims that behind closed doors the Rover camp was referring to these people of faith as fools, troglodytes, braindead, etc etc.

So, In a sense, you are correct, but so is Press, he has embraced the christian community, but only in the most rhetorical and cynical sense. He took your people for chumps and won the 04 election on their outpouring of support.

Bush has certainly put the christian community in a bad position as he made their representation a cornerstone of his presidency. It was his own doing and theirs for buying the politically manipulative crap he was selling.
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