FreeTedWilliams

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1.htm

Some interesting points, seems to me, that maybe, we are not really getting the true picture of Iraq. DO you think that the media might slant a story to fit thier liberal agenda, no they would never do that.

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Real World

This is where I go for news from Iraq & Afghanistan. I reccomend everyone else do the same.


www.mudvillegazette.com

www.mudvillegazette.com/milblogs

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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
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DarrylS

Here is one of the many places I get info on Iraq..

http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php

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Pujo

Do you think the Administration might do the same, or are hidden agendas solely the territory of the media?

Real World

I found it very upsetting to hear what Harry Ried had said. To think that we have troops actively fighting a war, and the leader of the Senate annouces we've "lost". That's disturbing.

Senator Lieberman's Statement on Majority Leader Reid's Comment that the Iraq War is "Lost"

WASHINGTON - Senator Joe Lieberman (ID-CT) today made the following statement in response to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's comment that the Iraq War is "lost:"

"This week witnessed horrific terrorist attacks by Islamist extremists in Iraq, killing hundreds of innocent civilians and leading Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to declare that the war is 'lost.'

With all due respect, I strongly disagree. Senator Reid's statement is not based on military facts on the ground in Iraq and does not advance our cause there.

Al Qaeda's strategy for victory in Iraq is clear. They are trying to murder as many innocent civilians as possible in an effort to reignite sectarian fighting and drive us to retreat from Iraq.

The question now before us is whether we respond to these terrorist attacks by running away as Al Qaeda hopes - abandoning the future of Iraq, the Middle East, and ultimately our own security to the very same people responsible for this week's atrocities - or whether we stand united to fight them.

This is exactly the wrong time to conclude that we have lost the war in Iraq, or that our new strategy has failed. Instead, we should provide General Petraeus and his troops with the time and the resources to succeed. We should not surrender in the face of barbarism."

http://lieberman.senate.gov/newsroom....cfm?id=272753

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Fogbuster

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Doesn't anyone remember Neville Chamberlain?? He said Hitler and the Nazis were "not a problem for us" (England and the world) and, anyway, Hitler was "unstoppable".

Was he right?? Should we have followed his advice??


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Pujo

We're not fighting Hitler. And I don't mean rhetorically, I mean quite literally we are not fighting Adolph Hitler. Already that sets off alarm bells that this situation might be different from that situation and needs its own consideration. Chamberlain was wrong in that case, but sometimes the Chamberlains of the world turn out to be right.

Real World

I know the site. Certainly presented with a POV.

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mr3putt

Neville Chamberlain?

Cmon Foggster wake up

My sources come from the 82nd airborne in Iraq and Centcom in Tampa.

US casualties are up
Parlamaint in the Green Zone bombed.
US command says thay will not guarantee safety of members IN THE GREEN ZONE.
Iraqi's leaving their own country by the thousands.
Shiit's abandon government.
Public protests for US to leave.

With all due respect to that Marine and the Drudge Report.......

This war is civil...and it is lost.....period!!!!!!!!!

Turd Furguson

Much like the notion that the Vietnam War was a lost cause after the Tet Offensive (thanks to Walter Kronkite) despite the fact that Tet pretty much broke the VC's back and was a military disaster for North Vietnam. The NVA learned that they could win this war politically thanks to the anti-war left and their puppets the media. Same rings true today for Al-Qaeda in Iraq as all they need do now is fight a war of attrition and as long as we're spineless and lilly livered without the will to fight, they'll sit and wait and then wreak havoc once we've left Iraq.