Originally Posted by Holy Diver

My fellow americans,

unless you are like me, ULTRA rich, you are not getting tax cuts...you are getting tax credits...

Those of you who love the republicans (aka my b!tchez) because you think they cut your taxes make me laugh ..... Listen .... The guys and I crack up after a good Polo match while spitting caviar for distance about how much easier it is to make a 3 million dollar contribution, than to be taxed 5 million.

Oh....then we get such a laugh about moving out 'offices' offshore to the islands, so the United States sees less of my revenue. But wait...it gets even funnier.....

There are only two kinds of people that actually benefit from this....Me and the politician.....HA!...isn't that a gas? You people vote them into office.

Keep voting republican! Keep the dream of becoming an ELITE alive, thats what fuels this whole thing. You!

See you all in the hamptons!
Hoity Toity Diver

Originally Posted by QuiGon

I've said it before and I guess I have to say it again:

A conservative sees taxes as a means to generate revenue for the government and, as such, the goal should be to maximize revenue.

A liberal sees taxes as a socialistic policy that should redistribute wealth from the rich who have earned it to the poor who refuse to work for it.

A businessman making $150k pays $40k in taxes. An unemployed welfare momma with 9 kids takes in $40k per year from the government in welfare, food stams and health care. Which one of these two is not paying their fair share...?

Originally Posted by QuiGon

I've said it before and I guess I have to say it again:

A conservative sees taxes as a means to generate revenue for the government and, as such, the goal should be to maximize revenue.

A liberal sees taxes as a socialistic policy that should redistribute wealth from the rich who have earned it to the poor who refuse to work for it.

Originally Posted by QuiGon

A businessman making $150k pays $40k in taxes. An unemployed welfare momma with 9 kids takes in $40k per year from the government in welfare, food stamps, and health care. Which one of these two is not paying their fair share?

Originally Posted by Holy Diver

I suck at word problems.....lets see....How about the buisness man who collects a $20 million paycheck, then pays 40% in taxes, then lays off 15,000 workers so he can outsources his jobs to ..... India ..... for another tax cut?

How about him?

Originally Posted by Real World

It's a waste of time QuiGon. Liberals know what you're saying, they just don't care.

Originally Posted by Real World

If you're a rich SOB, then congrats, and stay out of my wallet. If you want to help the people I see everyday, of which at least 60% qualify as lazy, and undeserving, then give YOUR MONEY.

Originally Posted by Holy Diver

I suck at word problems.....lets see....How about the buisness man who collects a $20 million paycheck, then pays 40% in taxes, then lays off 15,000 workers so he can outsources his jobs to ..... India ..... for another tax cut?

How about him?

Originally Posted by Real World

How about who? If it's cheaper to do business somewhere else, then he has the right to move his company elsewhere. If he lives in this country, he pays taxes in this country. Last I checked, and corporation doesn't pay income taxes, people do.

Originally Posted by Patters

Tax policy redistributes wealth regardless. If you want to avoid that than everyone should pay the exact same dollar amount, not a percent, which of course is absurd.

Originally Posted by Patters

Of course you would use that comparison. That's pure politics. I could post a similar comparison that might appeal to you, such as Ted Kennedy v. the hard working, small businessman. Or better yet, Snoop Dog, Jessie Jackson, George Soros, and Al Sharpton. But, that's just playing politics. All I'm saying is that if we want to see taxes reduced on the middle class, there's precedent from both Democrats and Republicans to have the wealthy pay a larger share.