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Old 09-05-2010, 09:38 AM   #21
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No you dumped a whole lot of crap and hoped to bury any opposition in it.

Here's a question I'll guarantee you'll tapdance around:

What was it about World War 2 that actually ended the Depression?
It created full employment for a sustained periold of time. Unemployment was actually negative during WWII. Full employment is typically defined as unemployment at 4% or less. It also created new technologies and business models that provided the foundation for the period of prosperity that followed WWII. All things that no economic policy can replicate.

SD, I'm not going to endlessly debated economic theory with you when it's already been done by people far more knowledgeable than anyone on this board.

I suggest you read both sides of this argument and make up your own mind.

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Old 09-05-2010, 09:41 AM   #22
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Either you can prove there aren't recognized arguments on both sides or you can't.
Now you've got yourself a nice tautology. I.e., a useless argument. Look it up.

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SD, I'm not going to endlessly debated economic theory with you when it's already been done by people far more knowledgeable than anyone on this board.
Copout by resorting to an appeal to authority. Fallacious again, PR.
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It created full employment for a sustained periold of time.
Was it by magic or was it by massive government spending?
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Was it by magic or was it by massive government spending?
Do you understand

1. The level of spending required in an effort to duplicate the results of WWII?
2. That PATRIOTISM played a huge role in the success of manufacturing efforts to support our troops?
3. That after WWII, America was light-years ahead of any other country (including the Soviet Union) technologically?

So, are you suggesting the same conditions are present today?

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1. The level of spending required in an effort to duplicate the results of WWII?
1) Doesn't change the fact that spending is what did the job.
2) Doesn't mean the same level of spending is necessary to bring you out of depression. They were fighting a war, too, after all.


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2. That PATRIOTISM played a huge role in the success of manufacturing efforts to support our troops?

Oh brother. How does one measure patriotism? You should have quit while you were ahead.

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3. That after WWII, America was light-years ahead of any other country (including the Soviet Union) technologically?
Only because we took all the German scientists. Without that Germany is still ahead.
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1) Doesn't change the fact that spending is what did the job.
2) Doesn't mean the same level of spending is necessary to bring you out of depression. They were fighting a war, too, after all.





Oh brother. How does one measure patriotism? You should have quit while you were ahead.



Only because we took all the German scientists. Without that Germany is still ahead.
And the fact remains that what happened due to WWII can't be re-created.

"Spending" alone did nothing without the environment in which it was spent.

You stick your nose up at the role patriotism played in our efforts to win a war which if we lost, would have changed the course of our lives. That's precious Strud.

Yet, you state that it's important to make sure workers are motivated & content (see meat packing-Muslim thread) in order to make a business thrive. So you obviously support that motivation plays a large role in economic success.

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[quote=PatriotsReign;2101270]And the fact remains that what happened due to WWII can't be re-created.['/quote]

Who says you have to?

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You stick your nose up at the role patriotism played in our efforts to win a war which if we lost, would have changed the course of our lives. That's precious Strud.
If you can't measure it you can't make a claim based on it and not be laughed out of the room.

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Yet, you state that it's important to make sure workers are motivated & content (see meat packing-Muslim thread) in order to make a business thrive. So you obviously support that motivation plays a large role in economic success.
Sure. That doesn't mean you can measure patriotism outside of techniques like self-reporting, which are pretty unreliable. It's not a serious argument.
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And the fact remains that what happened due to WWII can't be re-created.['/quote]

Who says you have to?



If you can't measure it you can't make a claim based on it and not be laughed out of the room.



Sure. That doesn't mean you can measure patriotism outside of techniques like self-reporting, which are pretty unreliable. It's not a serious argument.
I suggest you discuss this with a higher authority on US history. They'll laugh at your argument that patriotism played no role in the acceleration of the US economy during and after WWII.

Meanwhile, SD is prolly reading up and gathering his facts so he can counter my posts....

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I suggest you discuss this with a higher authority on US history. They'll laugh at your argument that patriotism played no role in the acceleration of the US economy during and after WWII.
Don't put words in my mouth. My point is that 1) how do you measure it's impact? Any argument based on this is going to be inductive and certainly not air-tight. and 2) Now you're grasping at straws in things like patriotism like I knew you would.
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