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Old 03-30-2007, 06:29 PM   #1
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Could things be any worse for George W. Bush and his beleaguered party? In the new TIME poll, the President's job approval rating continues to wallow near his all-time lows, at 33%, while his disapproval rating breaks the 60% barrier for the third consecutive survey. On Iraq, meanwhile, just 38% of respondents think the U.S. was right to invade, and only 37% believe "the new Iraqi government will be able to build a stable and reasonably democratic society." Given a choice of policy options going forward, 68% endorse proposals to withdraw most combat troops, either within a year or no later than August 31, 2008, while just 28% say troops should stay in the country "as long as needed until the Iraqis can handle the situation themselves."

And then there's the burgeoning scandal stemming from the Justice Department's dismissal last year of eight U.S. attorneys. Forty-eight percent of respondents say the federal prosecutors were fired because they "refused to be pressured by politics," compared to just 22% who believe they were dismissed "for proper reasons." By a 55%-33% margin, Americans believe Bush is refusing to allow top aide Karl Rove and other White House aides to testify under oath "because he's trying to cover up the reasons for the firings," not because he "wants to preserve the Constitution's separation of powers." A slight plurality, 39%-36%, believe Attorney General Alberto Gonzales should resign.

So it's taken almost as a given among the professional political class that the 2008 Presidential election is the Democrats' to lose. Republicans are so morose in general, and conservatives so unhappy with their current field of candidates, that the assumption of a Democratic advantage has become bipartisan. And with the public so soured on the Republican in the White House, and so many other trends working against them, including an uptick in the percentage of Americans identifying themselves as Democrats, it's hard to find any good news for Republicans these days. So why, in poll after poll, including the new TIME poll, does that advantage seem to disappear whenever voters are asked to pick a President in hypothetical head-to-head matchups among front-runners with solid name recognition. In our poll, Hillary Clinton loses to John McCain, 42%-48%, and to Rudy Giuliani 41%-50%. Even though Clinton maintains a 7% edge over Obama among Democratic respondents, Obama fares better in the general election matchups. It's so close that it's a statistical dead heat, but Obama still loses: 43%-45% to McCain, 44%-45% to Giuliani.

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Old 03-31-2007, 06:12 AM   #2
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Now ain't amazing and convenient, a MSM news source (Time in association with CNN) reports something that can be used by the righties... now if the poll came out different, would it be dismissed as a biased, crackpot poll by the "drive by media"????
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Now ain't amazing and convenient, a MSM news source (Time in association with CNN) reports something that can be used by the righties... now if the poll came out different, would it be dismissed as a biased, crackpot poll by the "drive by media"????
Or is the angle, look at all this bad news, are you people crazy in voting for a republican?
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Now ain't amazing and convenient, a MSM news source (Time in association with CNN) reports something that can be used by the righties... now if the poll came out different, would it be dismissed as a biased, crackpot poll by the "drive by media"????


Looks like Rush is in your head.








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Could things be any worse for George W. Bush and his beleaguered party? In the new TIME poll, the President's job approval rating continues to wallow near his all-time lows, at 33%, while his disapproval rating breaks the 60% barrier for the third consecutive survey. On Iraq, meanwhile, just 38% of respondents think the U.S. was right to invade, and only 37% believe "the new Iraqi government will be able to build a stable and reasonably democratic society." Given a choice of policy options going forward, 68% endorse proposals to withdraw most combat troops, either within a year or no later than August 31, 2008, while just 28% say troops should stay in the country "as long as needed until the Iraqis can handle the situation themselves."



And then there's the burgeoning scandal stemming from the Justice Department's dismissal last year of eight U.S. attorneys. Forty-eight percent of respondents say the federal prosecutors were fired because they "refused to be pressured by politics," compared to just 22% who believe they were dismissed "for proper reasons." By a 55%-33% margin, Americans believe Bush is refusing to allow top aide Karl Rove and other White House aides to testify under oath "because he's trying to cover up the reasons for the firings," not because he "wants to preserve the Constitution's separation of powers." A slight plurality, 39%-36%, believe Attorney General Alberto Gonzales should resign.

So it's taken almost as a given among the professional political class that the 2008 Presidential election is the Democrats' to lose. Republicans are so morose in general, and conservatives so unhappy with their current field of candidates, that the assumption of a Democratic advantage has become bipartisan. And with the public so soured on the Republican in the White House, and so many other trends working against them, including an uptick in the percentage of Americans identifying themselves as Democrats, it's hard to find any good news for Republicans these days. So why, in poll after poll, including the new TIME poll, does that advantage seem to disappear whenever voters are asked to pick a President in hypothetical head-to-head matchups among front-runners with solid name recognition. In our poll, Hillary Clinton loses to John McCain, 42%-48%, and to Rudy Giuliani 41%-50%. Even though Clinton maintains a 7% edge over Obama among Democratic respondents, Obama fares better in the general election matchups. It's so close that it's a statistical dead heat, but Obama still loses: 43%-45% to McCain, 44%-45% to Giuliani.

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Thanks for the News...how bout the Weather and Sports?

The only poll that will count for real will be the 2008 election.
I hope those lobbying firms on K Street have lot's of openings for the Republican dispossed after that tilt.
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Thanks for the News...how bout the Weather and Sports?

The only poll that will count for real will be the 2008 election.
I hope those lobbying firms on K Street have lot's of openings for the Republican dispossed after that tilt.


OK. Stay tuned. Should be an interesting next two years!!




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OK. Stay tuned. Should be an interesting next two years!!




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Hey Foggy....I did not see a response from you regarding my exit plan from Iraq on the other thread.


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Hey Foggy....I did not see a response from you regarding my exit plan from Iraq on the other thread.


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Didn't see it. You can call me " 'buster".



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Looks like Rush is in your head.

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Unfortunately my disdain for all things DC made me consider my politics about 5 years ago, so I tried listening to Rush for 1 year. However, after that I found out that he is twice as bad and all I really found out was the body size and nickname of every democrat. He was not my answer.
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Unfortunately my disdain for all things DC made me consider my politics about 5 years ago, so I tried listening to Rush for 1 year. However, after that I found out that he is twice as bad and all I really found out was the body size and nickname of every democrat. He was not my answer.


Well, for me he is certainly not the complete answer, but he is a dissenting voice in the wilderness of same-talk from all the networks. So, although I do not follow him daily, I am sure glad he is there. If he didn't exist someone would have to invent him.



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