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Old 03-24-2007, 02:47 PM   #1
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Default Iran Captures 15 British Sailors - another Gulf of Tonkin?

The timing of this is very suspicious. The US has been amassing forces for an invasion of Iran, and there is also an upcoming UN Security Council meeting on possible Iran sanctions. I wouldn't be surprised if the British intentionally went into Iranian waters to provoke them, and then immediately demand the release of their soldiers on all the media they could find.

This sounds like another 'Gulf of Tonkin' incident (the fake incident used to justify going into Vietnam).
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Old 03-24-2007, 03:13 PM   #2
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When we were fighting al Qaeda in Afghanistan, the public was saying "lets get Saddam on our way out", so we did...then they said "why are we going after Saddam, the Iranians are a bigger threat"...and now that theres tension with Iran, the people are saying "why are we doing this"




Its a lose/lose situation no matter what happens.
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The timing of this is very suspicious. The US has been amassing forces for an invasion of Iran, and there is also an upcoming UN Security Council meeting on possible Iran sanctions. I wouldn't be surprised if the British intentionally went into Iranian waters to provoke them, and then immediately demand the release of their soldiers on all the media they could find.

This sounds like another 'Gulf of Tonkin' incident (the fake incident used to justify going into Vietnam).
We'll have to get Oliver Stone and Dan Rather to look into this one.
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Old 03-24-2007, 03:15 PM   #4
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Danny_Boy, what are you talking about? Everyone wondered why we were in Iraq in the first place, and then got pissed when it turned out there were no WMD and it was clear the administration lied. NO ONE wants to go into Iran now except Neocons, Israelis, and the British.

Honestly, I have no clue what you are talking about. Are you insane?
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I thought the same thing, what did not want to post it as would be accused of some leftwing nutjob thing, the only thing that if it was a Gulf of Tonkin reasonable fascimile it should have been US sailors, not British. Then I thought of the Pueblo incident, but you never know, stay tuned the sabers will be rattling soon.
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Old 03-24-2007, 03:17 PM   #6
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It sounds almost exactly like Gulf of Tonkin - deliberately provoking a hostile response, and then using it to take a reluctant American public into war. Do government officials think the American public is really this stupid?
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Danny_Boy, what are you talking about? Everyone wondered why we were in Iraq in the first place, and then got pissed when it turned out there were no WMD and it was clear the administration lied. NO ONE wants to go into Iran now except Neocons, Israelis, and the British.

Honestly, I have no clue what you are talking about. Are you insane?

I guess you dont remember all the "get saddam on your way out signs, eh?
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The timing of this is very suspicious. The US has been amassing forces for an invasion of Iran, and there is also an upcoming UN Security Council meeting on possible Iran sanctions. I wouldn't be surprised if the British intentionally went into Iranian waters to provoke them, and then immediately demand the release of their soldiers on all the media they could find.

This sounds like another 'Gulf of Tonkin' incident (the fake incident used to justify going into Vietnam).
Always nice to hear the Blame-America-First crowd..!! Although I guess in this case it would be Blame-UK-First...?

Anyway, if this is another Gulf of Tonkin, it's pretty impressive how we got both the Brits and the Iranians to go along with it.
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When we were fighting al Qaeda in Afghanistan, the public was saying "lets get Saddam on our way out", so we did...then they said "why are we going after Saddam, the Iranians are a bigger threat"...and now that theres tension with Iran, the people are saying "why are we doing this"




Its a lose/lose situation no matter what happens.
Danny Boy, mah boy, you shore do makes a lotta sense when you isn't talking about Bob Kraft..!!
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Anyway, if this is another Gulf of Tonkin, it's pretty impressive how we got both the Brits and the Iranians to go along with it.
You're overthinking it. The US got the British to send sailors into Iranian territory, provoking them. They knew the Iranian response would be to naturally protect its borders and territory.
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