DarrylS

Came across this poll today on the BBC website, interesting, thought we were told hope was coming to the Iraqi people...more coming out later, also focuses on the huge political divide of the Iraqi people.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6464277.stm

Only 18% of Iraqis have confidence in US and coalition troops, while opinion is almost evenly split on whether to have confidence in Iraq's government.

About 86% of those questioned expressed concern about someone in their household being a victim of violence.

More than 2,000 people were questioned. The poll was commissioned by the BBC, ABC News, ARD German TV and USA Today.

The survey was conducted by D3 Systems.

The latest findings contrast strongly with the outlook among Iraqis in 2005, when respondents to a similar survey were generally hopeful about the future.

Asked whether they thought reconstruction efforts in Iraq had been effective, some 67% said they felt they had not.

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Patters

We have destroyed a nation, killed tens of thousands, destablized a large part of the Middle East, created countless new enemies, lost 3000 troops, spent hundreds of billions of dollars, and what do you we have to show for it? There was one attack on American soil under Clinton, and one under Bush, but Clinton didn't respond by wrecking the lives of countless people. Someday, I hpoe Bush and his gang are tried for international war crimes, even if it's in abstentia.

More on the same poll:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2954716&page=1

In 2005, despite the difficulties in their country, 71 percent of Iraqis said their own lives were going well. Today that's been all but halved, to 39 percent. In 2005, two-thirds expected their lives to improve over the coming year. Now just 35 percent see better days ahead.

The number of Iraqis who call it "acceptable" to attack U.S. and coalition forces, 17 percent in early 2004, has tripled to 51 percent now, led by near unanimity among Sunni Arabs. And 78 percent of Iraqis now oppose the presence of U.S. forces on their soil, though far fewer favor an immediate pullout.

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Given all this, for the first time since the 2003 war, fewer than half of Iraqis, 42 percent, say life is better now than it was under Saddam Hussein, whose security forces are said to have murdered more than a million Iraqis.

Forty-two percent think their country is in a civil war; 24 percent more think one is likely. Barely more than four in 10 expect a better life for their children.

All_Around_Brown

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17687430/

Saw that here as well. Someones spinning the polling data. Wonder who?

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Fogbuster

Yeah, right, guys. America's sending Iraq into the toilet, and all of South and Central America can't wait to get across our borders. What's that make them? Wannabe "invaders" or just simple idiots??

Keep spinning.



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All_Around_Brown

Your message in other words? Attack the messenger? OK. Got it.

Hey, do you know why they come here? Its called cheap labor. What does that have to do with our image worldwide which happens to be at an all time low. Or are you going to deny that too?

<--- Fogbuster preaching to the crowd.

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DarrylS

You are comparing raisins and grapefruit.. this makes no sense, changing topics in midstream or changing the focus is a classic rovian tactic.

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All_Around_Brown

I do that too, but not because I mean to, I just get distracted too easily. Someone writes something that fires of a synapse and next thing you know Im talking something totally different.

But here, perhaps it was intentional?? Dont like the poll results, so bring up illegal immigration. Everyone loves america from pole to pole, so thats why they flock here.

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Deus Irae

A different take by ABC.....

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world...ll_040314.html


It must have been forgotten by some here in their rush to judgment.