Originally Posted by mikey

Most of those Democrats quoted are not liars.

They were MISLED by the LIES perpetrated by George Bush and his administration.

The Democrats believed George Bush when he told the nation: The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.

The Democrats believed Colin Powell when he told the United Nations about Saddam's WMDs: Ladies and gentlemen, these are not assertions. These are facts, corroborated by many sources, some of them sources of the intelligence services of other countries.

But it turned all the information provided by the BUSH Administration were LIES.

Originally Posted by mikey

Most of those Democrats quoted are not liars.

They were MISLED by the LIES perpetrated by George Bush and his administration.

The Democrats believed George Bush when he told the nation: The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.

The Democrats believed Colin Powell when he told the United Nations about Saddam's WMDs: Ladies and gentlemen, these are not assertions. These are facts, corroborated by many sources, some of them sources of the intelligence services of other countries.

But it turned all the information provided by the BUSH Administration were LIES.

Originally Posted by Pujo

Everyone you quoted is a loser and a liar, but even many of them didn't outright say he had weapons (as opposed to weapons programs). I agree with Kerry, good reason not to vote for him.

Originally Posted by FreeTedWilliams

Here are some more LIES>>>>>>>>


"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
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"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.

NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WMD'S AND HE TOOK US TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES??? Right!!!

Originally Posted by PatsFanInEaglesLand

Ahh. dumbass check the dates!

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

Originally Posted by Fogbuster

Sniff, sniff ... is that the scent equivocation, giving one set of excuses for the Dem crowd but denying the same for the (Republican) Bush????

So henceforth you will be campaigning for the exact same treatment of all those mentioned above as you do for Geo Bush?? Because if you don't then you are simply a partisan.


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Originally Posted by Fogbuster

Nice work. Keep it up.


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Originally Posted by All_Around_Brown

Kettle Meet Pot.

God help you.

Originally Posted by Holy Diver

I don't seem to recall the Clinton administrations invasion, and war with Iraq....

I'll check though.....


Nope, it looks like they never invaded Iraq on those quotes. Keep defending the illegal invasions of a soverign nation if it makes you feel better about war crimes.

IMPEACH NOW!

Originally Posted by Fogbuster

Nobody ever said it would be easy.

All I can say for now is: Nixon was the only credible member of either chamber of Congress to speak out clearly and forthrightly about the Soviet and Chinese Communist threat back in the late 1940s.

This happened after the American press, led by the "official paper of record", the "venerable Gray Lady" (aka The Wicked Witch of the North) New York Times had spent the entire 1930s paying homage to the "great advances of the Soviet system", primarily via the propaganda shill for Sovietism, Walter Duranty, who even one a Pulitzer for his efforts, as he praised "Papa Joe" Stalin for his "wonderful reforms"!!! You should read how Duranty spun the starvation of 13 million Ukrainians; it will make a healthy man sick. So much for "checks, balances, and diversity" in the American media.
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When Nixon took point on revealing the emerging menace of Sovietism and Chinese/East Asian communism, he awakened America to the real future immediately after WWII: the life or death struggle between communism and democracy, the "Cold War". While democracy was based upon both spiritual and physical values -- with spirituality having a traditionally respected position because it dealt with eternal life, life after death -- communism did away with any spiritual concerns by saying: "if you want to believe in life after death, you can but you are a fool since you cannot prove it; if you don't believe in it, you are smart because atheism and materialism are the bases of the future communist world." It should be noted that Marx, Lenin, and all communists drew heavily from the theories of Darwin who said all life was just a big "accident" that "just happened on its own", thus effectively "killing" God in the process. Makes communism's materialistic view of life so much easier to sell when one teaches that all life is just one big "accident", random event.

Nixon was greatly responsible for awakening America and the West to the irreconcilable conflict between communism and democracy. That was an unpardonable sin in the eyes of those influential Americans, like those who ran/run the New York Times, who had a completely different -- and very hidden -- agenda prepared for America.

Watergate was never about a third rate burglary; it was from the beginning until the end always about getting Nixon. The game plan is thus: first, go after underlings: VP Agnew, AG Mitchell, Chuck Colson, HR Haldeman, and others; then, after momentum has built up and the air is filled with cries of "corrupt Nixon administration", and the piranhas are attracted by the scent of blood in the water, biting and attacking anything that moves with Nixon, then, finally, go after the man himself.

Like JFK didn't do many of the same things Nixon did, and worse!! But JFK was "untouchable" because he got killed. Even the Marilyn Monroe episodes, and all the other women visiting the White House -- while Jackie was away, of course -- never became public news, was never broadcast by the "great" Walter Cronkite or anyone at CBSNBCABCTheNYTimesWashingtonPost because John Kennedy was a "protected species" due to the myth of "Camelot", Kennedy's minority status as a (very nominal) Roman Catholic, and then finally his death.

Like LBJ didn't spy on people or tape them or any of the things Nixon did!! He did exactly the same, or more.

Bottom line: Nixon (Rep) was destroyed by the Left, and Clinton (Dem) was the liberal/Left sacrificial offering needed to balance the sheet.

You may not want to accept it, but all things must be balanced in the grand scheme of things. It's not a question of any person's judgment, not even God's; it is cosmic law. Know it, follow it, and be happy. Or deny it, ignore it, and pay the price. Your choice. Everyone's choice. Everyone gets what they deserve. It's never based on anybody's whim; it's always according to the *law* of the universe.


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