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Old 03-18-2007, 10:40 AM
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Most of basic physics, chemistry and biology is "proven".

The cause of Global Warming is not other than the fact that the earth is a little warmer and that is has always gone through warming and cooling periods.

But even if it were, it shouldn't be taught by the government, it's not like e=(mc)^2, it's not some straight fact it's a moral, ethical issue that's for parents and kids not the governement.
Nether was the theory of evolution, and it was taught in schools. Not it is accepted as fact.
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Old 03-18-2007, 10:55 AM
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Needless to say, the government has no business entering into the world of theoretical hyperbole.

English, Math and proven, factual science is all they should teach IMO.
OK, so much for art and music, then. Or sports for that matter.
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Two wrongs don't make a right, do they.
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If it's true, it should be taught. It's not just a moral issue, it's a scientific one. If the earth is warming (which it is), I want my kids to learn about it
If you leave it at that one statement, fine. Beyond that it's rampant speculation. Just like evolution is true - but whether humans are solely due to it is rampant speculation.
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If it's true, it should be taught. It's not just a moral issue, it's a scientific one. If the earth is warming (which it is), I want my kids to learn about it just like they learn about other science issues. If the majority of scientists believe humans have a hand in the warming (which they do), I want my kids to learn about it just like they learn about other sciences.

There's not much in any science that's "proven", hell, they're starting to re-think one of Newton's fundamental conclusions (that gravity decays using the same inverse square law that elecromagnetic radiation does). But there's scientific consensus, and your opinion not withstanding, scientific consensus is that the Earth is warming at least partially due to humans.

Now, what to do about it, is a moral issue. The fact that it's happening is purely scientific.
Teaching the fact that currently warming is OK but to what purpose?

The sticky part is the the maning attached to the current trends. For example are the consequences bad or good? The propaganda paints a dire future. The historical record of recent warming periods don't show the dire results predicted by the alarmist. Is the warming part of the normal climate cycle or something different? Depends on who you ask if you look at the historical record what we currently observe is normal. If you take the POV of the alarmist then the current climate change is not normal.

Given the uncertainty in the IPCC reports (they keep changing the predictions), the politics involved (Scientist who feel their work being misrepresented and still have their names attached to the report).

Presenting the current Global Warming as being 'man made' is not proven science it is propaganda.
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Presenting the current Global Warming as being 'man made' is not proven science it is propaganda.
And even if it is all man made, which I'm NOT saying it is, it's still none of the public schools' business to make kids think the way they do. It's no different than teaching religion, it takes some circumstantial facts, presents them as absolute then indoctrinates kids into some chosen line of thinking that should be up to each person to decide, not the public schools.
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Nah, BelichickFan, you're too transparent. Some facts disagree with what you like to believe so you don't think the facts are relevant enough to be taught in school. This is exactly like evolution, and "two wrongs don't make a right" has nothing to do with it. Teaching evolution was right, and teaching about environmental consequences is right. Should schools be using Al Gore's movie? Hell no. But global warming - both natural and manmade - is part of Earth Science and shouldn't be filtered out because it's a hot political issue right now. No matter what little holes are poked in the exactness of our knowledge about global warming, the big picture is it still exists and humans are at least partially responsible for it. Nothing you, me, or Al Gore says can change that.
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Dirty crazy f-cking liberals, scare the sh!t out of the kids.

Hey kid your father owns a pickup truck if the world blows up it's you fathers fault

The End Is Near--The End Is Near--Oh God What Will We Do

Scare The Kids Sell Your SUV, Bury Your Sh!t, Oh Jesus.

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Two wrongs don't make a right, do they.
The only two things wrong here, are that you sit behind you computer and think you are right, and your statement above.

I am a conservative person in my thinking and in the way I live my life. Even then I want my children to be aware of things that are going on in this world and that is one of educations jobs in addition to me teaching them those things. By having the schools only teach what you suggest is like having to teach them in a cave with no light. People need light to see. They also need knowledge to make decisions as they grow up.

Never mind the fact that the theory of relativity e=(mc)^2 has never been proven. Unlike the idea that you present it is not proven science.

In addition to you statement about cutting to many trees and not wanting you kid to know. Do you live where logging is a way of life? How do you know if to many trees are being cut? You do not want your kid to be taught about what is happening in the natural world. Yea you are better off indoors. You sit behind you computer and have what 10,000+ posts. You don't have the time to know what is going on in the environment. So stay there behind you little computer and think and write. That is the only thing you are good at cause you do not have a clue about outdoors. Hoist you on your own petard.

I know from personal observation that the climate is warming. What do you know from personal observation? How to think? Prove it. Thinking is worth nothing, knowing is worth everything.

Enough of this liberalism and over intellectualizing crap for me. You all sit around your computers and make your selves feel important. I am going outdoors into the real world for the rest of the day. Where life really happens.
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I am a conservative person in my thinking and in the way I live my life. Even then I want my children to be aware of things that are going on in this world and that is one of educations jobs in addition to me teaching them those things.
Well I don't want some stupid teacher instilling moral and ethical opinions. Next thing they'll be teaching that pro choice is the right thing.

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Never mind the fact that the theory of relativity e=(mc)^2 has never been proven.
This is what I get for posting first thing in the morning, I meant to type F=MA.
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