Which Thousands the IPPC list which includes scientist who asked their names be removed since their work was edited by bureaucrats or the Sociologist and others who were not qualified to write about the science?

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Coulter's really drilling it in there.

Global warming is proven. Even many of the so-called skeptics don't disagree; they disagree with some aspects of the proof. From what I've read, many scientists agree we are in a natural warming trend, but the human contribution is clear as well. From the point of view of some, very little of science of any kind (Darwinism, relativity, etc.) has been proven.

CARTHAGE, Tenn. - Al Gore has profited from zinc mining that has released millions of pounds of potentially toxic substances near his farmstead, but there is no evidence the mine has caused serious damage to the environment in the area or threatened the health of his neighbors.

Two massive white mountains of leftover rock waste are evidence of three decades of mining that earned Gore more than $500,000 in royalty payments for the mineral rights to his property.

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs....EWS01/70316074

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Stupid Harry Boy

Harry points out the real threat to the environment. Al Gore aside, the direct contamination of soil, groundwater and air from mining, fossil fuel combustion, dumping and other human activity is a much more urgent threat to humans. The levels and effects are observable and measurable.

The problem with the "debate" (if you call it that) is that time spent teaching about the issues of pollution and stewardship of the land gets replaced by these popular trendy issues like global warming and multiculturalism. Kids have virtually no education about the stock market and the world economy, which are much more important than these hot-button media driven issues that are now the focus of education. Educating your kid at home in addition to the crap they get in school is more important than ever.

If the schools did only as you suggest then they would have never taught the theory of evolution. You are correct about one thing. This damn liberal society we live in is intent on cramming their values down our throats. Like drugging our kids to encourage the behavior they want. You can thank the liberals, drug companies and the feminist for that one.

I love the way you people sit at home at you computes and say this is happening or that is not happening. How do you know? The fact is you do not have a clue. You are inside buildings 80% of you lives and have no real connection to the living world. Most of you can't tell a moose from a deer or where the nearest golden eagle resides. You could not tell a white-throated sparrow from an ovenbird. Never mind identify them by song. You do not know the difference between a mink and an otter what family they are a part of and what other species they might smell like & how they are related. So go ahead and tell everybody that you know this is not happing with our planet. Some of you people know these things, but 87.925% of you do not have a clue even though you think you do. You are so ignorant about our natural world you do not even know it.

While warming and cooling patterns are cyclic and a natural part of the earth’s long-term climate, anyone who says or thinks that mans activities doe not have some influence on the natural word is living in a world-darkened ignorance.

How do I know what I am talking about? I work in the outdoors everyday. My career is interacting and observing nature; it's animals, plants, amphibians, birds, ecosystems and weather patterns. It is my job to do this. I can tell you from first hand life and job experience that the climate is changing. It is getting warmer. Are we causing it? I do not know for certain I suspect that from what I observe, but do not know it as a given fact. However, I do know that somehow our activity as humans is affecting our climate. The plain fact that we exist in it means that we alter it. The question is how are we affecting it?

So now that I have written this all you stay indoors people can now write how you think I am wrong. I know what I see, do you? All I can say is just stay at you computers and keep thinking. That’s what you good at and not much else. I will go out and live my life every day outdoors where the real world is. Not in mans artificial self-important world where most of you are and feel so smug about.

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That's a truly bizarre comment. Liberals want troubled kids to have therapy, conservatives don't want to spend the bucks. The result is that troubled kids end up going to a doctor of psychiatrist who prescribes drugs. It's a terrible solution, but the decision to give a kid drugs ultimately rests with the parents. (Personal responsibility, you know.) What do feminists have to do with this issue? That's a weird comment on your part. As far as the drug companies, they give far more generously to Republicans than Democrats:

http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.asp?Ind=H04

Other than that, I thought your post was really good. Many of the global warming skeptics reject visual evidence, arguing that it's merely dramatic and if you go back to another eon you could have found the same thing. (Whether you like him or not, Gore's movie and book have striking photos of the effects of global warming.) My own feeling is that what you wrote is one part of the equation. Add to that the scientific evidence, the photographic evidence, and so on, and you have a pretty convincing argument that we better do something about global warming, regardless of where the responsibility lies.

Most of basic physics, chemistry and biology is "proven".

The cause of Global Warming is not other than the fact that the earth is a little warmer and that is has always gone through warming and cooling periods.

But even if it were, it shouldn't be taught by the government, it's not like e=(mc)^2, it's not some straight fact it's a moral, ethical issue that's for parents and kids not the governement.

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If it's true, it should be taught. It's not just a moral issue, it's a scientific one. If the earth is warming (which it is), I want my kids to learn about it just like they learn about other science issues. If the majority of scientists believe humans have a hand in the warming (which they do), I want my kids to learn about it just like they learn about other sciences.

There's not much in any science that's "proven", hell, they're starting to re-think one of Newton's fundamental conclusions (that gravity decays using the same inverse square law that elecromagnetic radiation does). But there's scientific consensus, and your opinion not withstanding, scientific consensus is that the Earth is warming at least partially due to humans.

Now, what to do about it, is a moral issue. The fact that it's happening is purely scientific.

[quote=Patters;379181]That's a truly bizarre comment. Liberals want troubled kids to have therapy, conservatives don't want to spend the bucks. The result is that troubled kids end up going to a doctor of psychiatrist who prescribes drugs. It's a terrible solution, but the decision to give a kid drugs ultimately rests with the parents. (Personal responsibility, you know.) What do feminists have to do with this issue? That's a weird comment on your part. As far as the drug companies, they give far more generously to Republicans than Democrats:]

You have the personal responsibility thing right! No one wants to take that anymore. As far as cramming drugs down our throats, our whole society has become," take a pill and fix it". Look at all of the adds on TV. They all tell us we are sick and need drugs to get better. No matter how you look at that, that is a liberal way of thinking and I do not mean politically liberal. I mean our society has become permissive and that way of living is liberal rather than being conservative and seeing value in the ways that encourage restraint in our lives. One of the things that is liberal thinking in all in all of this is, all of the additives that are allowed to be put in our foods. That crap causes health and behavioral problems. That really gets a bur under my saddle

As far as the feminist thing I would not expect you to understand or agree if you did. I believe that men and women are completly equal, but very different. The feminist way of thinking is don't let little Johnny fight with little Tommy, that is barbaric. They want to change that awful behavior. The fact of the matter is that little boys were made to fight. It is one of the ways they learn restraint and how to become strong men. Not the women whipped males that we have in most of our society. Little boys fighting also releases their aggressions rather than letting it build up, suppressed, until a large and violent explosion happens often as teenagers. Then people and society suffers. The feminist and liberal thinkers want to control our behavior. After all "it take a village to raise a child". Yea like my family and I do not have any idea how to do that. We are all better off with the government out or our lives, and it does not matter if it is liberal or conservative government. Which I want you to remember is that the government is not my point in this discussion. It is in how we live our lives. Liberally, or conservatively. If more of us lived conservatively we would not be so dependant on foreign oil we would walk rather than ride. We would encourage more public transportation, but we don't. We as a society live liberally and wastefully. That is the point.

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