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Agenda Boy, biased? Nah....

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Agenda Boy, biased? Nah....

You must be new here.
biased? and you're not? hypocrite 2A strikes again...

i'm only biased towards the security of this nation, and justice from the top on down... got it? .... you're the prototypical Bush League excuse maker, but even this one has YOU backing off... that says a lot...
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Look, if Plame was outed by anything more than a slip of the tonque while she was covert then whoever was responsible should pay. Putting those two pieces together in the manner you have would be graded an "F" in any journalism or law school, however. The first paragraph is is not a quote from the CIA Director. Even if it is true, nobody doubts she was covert for some of her career. The first paragraph doesn't give any time frame. You then put in your a time frame by quoting Plame in her testimony. There is absolutely no evidence from what you wrote that suggests the CIA director agrees with her time frame. You're showing your bias now. You're trying to fool us.
who the feck are you? did you even read the link, or better still, did you even follow the trial or hearings today?
Asked by Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., about her status, however, Plame said:

"I know I'm here under oath. I'm here to say I was a covert officer of the Central Intelligence Agency." Cummings also pointed out that, as the committee chairman said earlier, the CIA director has authorized a statement saying Plame was a covert officer.
when the fick do you THINK Hayden made the statement? 1975? it was certainly a very recent quote... here's a more direct question.... do you have any specific idea WHY Toensing believes Plame's status did not apply to the IIPA?
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Old 03-16-2007, 05:53 PM
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biased? and you're not? hypocrite 2A strikes again...

i'm only biased towards the security of this nation, and justice from the top on down... got it? .... you're the prototypical Bush League excuse maker, but even this one has YOU backing off... that says a lot...
Um, yup.

Anyhow, I sure as hell defend Bush on Immigration.

BTW, what am I "backing off" of?
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who the feck are you? did you even read the link, or better still, did you even follow the trial or hearings today?
Asked by Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., about her status, however, Plame said:

"I know I'm here under oath. I'm here to say I was a covert officer of the Central Intelligence Agency." Cummings also pointed out that, as the committee chairman said earlier, the CIA director has authorized a statement saying Plame was a covert officer.
when the fick do you THINK Hayden made the statement? 1975? it was certainly a very recent quote... here's a more direct question.... do you have any specific idea WHY Toensing believes Plame's status did not apply to the IIPA?
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Um, yup.

Anyhow, I sure as hell defend Bush on Immigration.

BTW, what am I "backing off" of?
well, 95% of the time, you're in bed with Bushie agenda... but this one is so blatantly unflattering, you're not touching it...

a fine choice... if i held 2-7, wouldn't stay in either with a Q-K-A flop either...
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well, 95% of the time, you're in bed with Bushie agenda... but this one is so blatantly unflattering, you're not touching it...

a fine choice... if i held 2-7, wouldn't stay in either with a Q-K-A flop either...


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who the feck are you? did you even read the link, or better still, did you even follow the trial or hearings today?
Asked by Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., about her status, however, Plame said:

"I know I'm here under oath. I'm here to say I was a covert officer of the Central Intelligence Agency." Cummings also pointed out that, as the committee chairman said earlier, the CIA director has authorized a statement saying Plame was a covert officer.
when the fick do you THINK Hayden made the statement? 1975? it was certainly a very recent quote... here's a more direct question.... do you have any specific idea WHY Toensing believes Plame's status did not apply to the IIPA?
First off, what do you mean "who the feck" am I? Are you upset that I had actually had the nerve to challange your all knowing and all seeing view on things? Well EXCUSE MEEEEEEEE!

I don't know. Plame says she was covert in the last 5 years, others say she wasn't. It's all a bunch of he said, she said right now. If the case was that slam-dunk then I think charges would have been brought by now.

Having said that, I will say right now that Plame was once a covert agent. No one is disputing that. No one. Where in there does it say the dates that she was covert(according to Hayden)?

Ask my family. They will tell you I was 10 years old. That's correct I was. They will you they gave me beer. That's correct. They did.

That does not mean they gave me beer when I was 10 years old though. They never gave me any until I was old enough. if I didn't tell you that then you and everyone else reading that might believe that they gave it to me when I was 10.

Why the "feck" can't you see that? Show me the "fecking" link where Hayden has testified to the dates and I'll tip my hat to you I'll even be embarrased.

I just find it curious that if he did, it didn't make it in the testimony you're providing as proof and leads me to doubt it exists. I'll admit it if I'm wrong though. Will you?
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1. Robert Novak actually made it public information, but if someone leaked it to Novak they should know better.

2. Wilson got a mission from the Administration to get information and then he proceeded to go public with what he says is accurate information, and to use it to criticize Bush. The fact that Wilson supported Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004 should not be under-played: Wilson is partisan, and so is Plame.

3. Did she perjure herself? Depends on what she said before and what she's saying now, while under oath both times. I never said she committed perjury. I said she is acting now as an agent for the Dems to attack Bush. Playing a dangerous game of politics with national security at stake.

If she feels she was "outed" by Libby or someone else in the Bush admin, I can understand her anger; but she is only one soldier while the success or failure of U.S. policy in Iraq involves many millions of people. In this case her playing politics reflects very poorly on her character as well as the characters of the Dems who are acting like piranhas.


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Playing Politics?
Putting people's lives at risk by manipulation of the facts?

I have heard of the "Fog of War" but this spewtum is the "Fog of Buster"

Face it boys....the current administration is a bunch of bumbling nitwits and should be cannon fodder for the Democrats. If only that party of corrupt cronies could focus long enough to lock and load. Politics will rule however and the Dems will miss the opportunity for a smackdown...again

History will thankfully judge the veracity and effectiveness of Bush/Cheney et al and the verdict will be devastating and permanent.
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First off, what do you mean "who the feck" am I? Are you upset that I had actually had the nerve to challange your all knowing and all seeing view on things? Well EXCUSE MEEEEEEEE!

I don't know. Plame says she was covert in the last 5 years, others say she wasn't. It's all a bunch of he said, she said right now. If the case was that slam-dunk then I think charges would have been brought by now.

Having said that, I will say right now that Plame was once a covert agent. No one is disputing that. No one. Where in there does it say the dates that she was covert(according to Hayden)?

Ask my family. They will tell you I was 10 years old. That's correct I was. They will you they gave me beer. That's correct. They did.

That does not mean they gave me beer when I was 10 years old though. They never gave me any until I was old enough. if I didn't tell you that then you and everyone else reading that might believe that they gave it to me when I was 10.

Why the "feck" can't you see that? Show me the "fecking" link where Hayden has testified to the dates and I'll tip my hat to you I'll even be embarrased.

I just find it curious that if he did, it didn't make it in the testimony you're providing as proof and leads me to doubt it exists. I'll admit it if I'm wrong though. Will you?
watch her testimony here... "in the run-up to the war with Iraq, I worked in the counterproliferations division of the CIA, still as a covert officer, whose affiliation with the CIA was classified."

further, i will look to confirm the date of which Gen. Hayden is speaking... but i hold absolutely no doubt he was speaking of her service within the "last five years" prior to her outing in mid-2003... again... director of the CIA: "she was covert"... somehow, i believe CIA people are a bit more of an authority on her status than Toensing, who's going off trial testimony... a trial in which discussion of her status was forbidden by the judge....
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