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Old 03-11-2007, 02:47 PM   #21
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Well I'm a little out of touch, being across the pond and all. Gotta update my bookmarks to include NASCAR!!




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Where are you? I'm in Germany, but I get US TV through the American Forces Network.

Lithuania. We get CNN, BBC, and some Fox Sports feeds.


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Because most of the fans of NASCAR believe in traditional family values, patriotism, and God.


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And we're talkin' *basic* beer, too. Bud, Coors, Miller. None of them fancy-pants "designer" brews!!


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Ha, tell me about it!! They built 128 back around '54-55, and it went right across our drive-way in Needham. Our old house is still there: red brick and white clapboard Cape, driveway still cut off from access to our street (Carter Street). We moved shortly after the highway was built; I was about 9. Before we did, though, we certainly got our taste of watching the cars go by!!





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I had only been married for a few years when that opened, at the time I owned and old Hupmoble, it looked like something John Dillinger used to drive, I took my wife and headed up Rte 2 from Cambridge up through Arlington, I told my wife there was a brand new road up there that looked like what we used to call a Turnpike and I wanted to see it, after taking a short ride on the new 128, on the way home I said, "those bastards that take our taxes have given us another screwing, nobody will ever use that damn thing".

I must have gone through your yard a thousand times, I drove Truck for the old Star Market Co, I went up and down 128 all night long.
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I had only been married for a few years when that opened, at the time I owned and old Hupmoble, it looked like something John Dillinger used to drive, I took my wife and headed up Rte 2 from Cambridge up through Arlington, I told my wife there was a brand new road up there that looked like what we used to call a Turnpike and I wanted to see it, after taking a short ride on the new 128, on the way home I said, "those bastards that take our taxes have given us another screwing, nobody will ever use that damn thing".

I must have gone through your yard a thousand times, I drove Truck for the old Star Market Co, I went up and down 128 all night long.

Yeah, *nobody* ever used that road!!!

Star Market, now that's a blast from the past. My mom used to shop there. So you used to drive up and down by my house; I KNEW we had a cosmic connection!!

Route 9 used to be the main road before 128 was done. It was on the *other* side of my house, twenty yards away. I was with my neighbor friend, Billy, and threw a crab-apple at a car going by one day, and the guy stopped and ran after me!! But I was too fast. That wasn't YOU in the car, was it??





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Because most of the fans of NASCAR believe in traditional family values, patriotism, and God.


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I hate NASCAR because it sucks, and I don't like Indy cars any better. Auto racing's not a sport.

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I believe the "family values" crowd, in picking their latest fight, is not receiving the response it is so anxious to get, thus I will happily provide it.

NASCAR is a profound example of American greed and capitalism run amok. It is a gluttonous waste of rubber, steel, fuel, and lives. Furthermore, until only recently, and only because it needed to clean its image for marketability, it's always bouyed the connotation of Tobacco Road, the deep south, and overt racism. It doesn't really take an athlete to drive a car fast, just a little boy's mentality of wanting to go really fast and crash into other little boys. Thus, it's not really a sport at all. ... NASCAR drivers and their pit crews never get out of breath, and only sweat because it's hot. ... NASCAR is technology, not physical exertion. ... While it takes strength to wrestle that wheel for 500 miles, so does lumberjacking. While it takes strategy, so does chess. ... While it takes bravery, so does firefighting.... As George Carlin says, "driving 500 miles in a circle does not impress me. It's always the same 5 rednecks who win every week anyway.... but when else can I see a 50 car pile-up and not be IN the goddam thing?... that's the only reason we watch."

There's a reason Danica Patrick won't run on the NASCAR circuit. And it's not because she can't compete and dominate. It's because the circuit is full of good ole boy, cheuvanistic attitude, where crashing and wrecking your opponent within an inch of his life is the accepted strategy. Jeff Gorden went on for two minutes recently about how no one drives the Cup series without paying their dues in Busch or the trucks. Did he run his mouth about Juan Pablo? No, he didn't. Just about Danica Patrick. Can't have any girls in there. They might win. Then what would he say?

Open wheel, while perhaps more dangerous, is real racing, real strategy, where cars actually turn right almost every week, not just twice a year. The technology is better, the cars go faster, the tracks much more scenic, the locations much MUCH more classy.

Go to a race at Daytona or Darlington or Birmingham, and you get to witness the furry underbelly of the deep south at its best. Replete with Confederate flags, cheap beer, $6 mesh truckstop caps and cheesefries. And there's plenty of advertising thrust in your face for the sheep to be told what to buy and how much of it to buy.

But, besides the waste, the advertising schlock, the cheuvanism, the dysfunctional and dangerous levels of misplaced masculinity, stock car racing is most unappealing because it just represents and upholds the stereotype of overt racism and intolerance. It's red state, and we're blue state. It's that simple.

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I believe the "family values" crowd, in picking their latest fight, is not receiving the response it is so anxious to get, thus I will happily provide it.

NASCAR is a profound example of American greed and capitalism run amok. It is a gluttonous waste of rubber, steel, fuel, and lives. Furthermore, until only recently, and only because it needed to clean its image for marketability, it's always bouyed the connotation of Tobacco Road, the deep south, and overt racism. It doesn't really take an athlete to drive a car fast, just a little boy's mentality of wanting to go really fast and crash into other little boys. Thus, it's not really a sport at all. ... NASCAR drivers and their pit crews never get out of breath, and only sweat because it's hot. ... NASCAR is technology, not physical exertion. ... While it takes strength to wrestle that wheel for 500 miles, so does lumberjacking. While it takes strategy, so does chess. ... While it takes bravery, so does firefighting.... As George Carlin says, "driving 500 miles in a circle does not impress me. It's always the same 5 rednecks who win every week anyway.... but when else can I see a 50 car pile-up and not be IN the goddam thing?... that's the only reason we watch."

There's a reason Danica Patrick won't run on the NASCAR circuit. And it's not because she can't compete and dominate. It's because the circuit is full of good ole boy, cheuvanistic attitude, where crashing and wrecking your opponent within an inch of his life is the accepted strategy. Jeff Gorden went on for two minutes recently about how no one drives the Cup series without paying their dues in Busch or the trucks. Did he run his mouth about Juan Pablo? No, he didn't. Just about Danica Patrick. Can't have any girls in there. They might win. Then what would he say?

Open wheel, while perhaps more dangerous, is real racing, real strategy, where cars actually turn right almost every week, not just twice a year. The technology is better, the cars go faster, the tracks much more scenic, the locations much MUCH more classy.

Go to a race at Daytona or Darlington or Birmingham, and you get to witness the furry underbelly of the deep south at its best. Replete with Confederate flags, cheap beer, $6 mesh truckstop caps and cheesefries. And there's plenty of advertising thrust in your face for the sheep to be told what to buy and how much of it to buy.

But, besides the waste, the advertising schlock, the cheuvanism, the dysfunctional and dangerous levels of misplaced masculinity, stock car racing is most unappealing because it just represents and upholds the stereotype of overt racism and intolerance. It's red state, and we're blue state. It's that simple.

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