Fogbuster

MSNBC host Chris Matthews spoke with Libby juror Ann Redington on HARDBALL. Juror [#10] says she would support a Bush pardon for Libby.

Transcript:

Chris: You're for a pardon out of sympathy for the defendant.

Ann: Yeah, I think in the big picture, um, it kind of bothers me that there was this whole big crime being investigated and he got caught up in the investigation as opposed to in the actual crime that was supposedly committed.

Chris: Which is the leaking of a CIA agents name.

Ann: Exactly.



http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1.htm

PressCoverage

lol... is drudge your homepage?

Fogbuster

No, MSNBC is. Why?


Anywho, that a juror would come out so quickly and surely to say that this whole fiasco is nothing but political gamesmanship is certainly a breath of fresh air. It's been clear all along what this charade has been about: this was NEVER about Libby, or his scooter. This has always been about vindictive, partisan, hack, small-minded people wanting to get to Bush by the ol' domino game, as they did to Nixon: go after one underling after another until the pool is so filled with blood the sharks will grab at anything, even a president who took the bold step of standing up to gutless, cowardly terrorists who hide behind schools, hospitals, their own allegedly sacred mosques, and even *wear women's clothing* to commit their despicable deeds.



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DarrylS

Could the whole Clinton fiasco been about political gamesmanship also?? I would think that outing a CIA agent for political retribution would trump a BJ in the Oval Office, but that is not a popular opinion. I know he lied to a grand jury. Everything in DC is about party politics, but if you break the law, you break the law. If this woman wasn't looking for her 5 minutes of fame, maybe she should have voted her conscience.. easy to come forth now and say what she should have done or how she felt. Another f....ing follower of Herr Rove and crew.

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DarrylS

You also might want to read this perspective, better than the dribble put out by Drudge and the rest of the Right Wing Circle Jerkers.. there are a lot of myths being perpetuated by the right on this issue, and talk about using it for their own political gain. One thing a lot forget here is that what took place was due process, and Scooter had his day in court.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200703060008

No underlying crime was committed. Since a federal grand jury indicted Libby in October 2005, numerous media figures have stated that the nature of the charges against him prove that special counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald's investigation of the CIA leak case found that no underlying crime had been committed. But this assertion ignores Fitzgerald's explanation that Libby's obstructions prevented him -- and the grand jury -- from determining whether the alleged leak violated federal law.

There was no concerted White House effort to smear Wilson. In his October 2005 press conference announcing Libby's indictment, Fitzgerald alleged that, in 2003, "multiple people in the White House" engaged in a "concerted action" to "discredit, punish, or seek revenge against" former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV. In August 2006, it came to light that then-deputy secretary of State Richard Armitage was the original source for syndicated columnist Robert D. Novak's July 14, 2003, column exposing CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity. Numerous conservative media figures subsequently claimed that this revelation disproved the notion of a "concerted" White House effort to smear Wilson. But to the contrary, David Corn -- Washington editor of The Nation and co-author of Hubris (Crown, 2006) the book that revealed Armitage's role in the leak -- noted on his Nation weblog that Armitage "abetted a White House campaign under way to undermine Wilson" and that whether he deliberately leaked Plame's identity, "the public role is without question: senior White House aides wanted to use Valerie Wilson's CIA employment against her husband."

Libby was not responsible for the leak of Plame's identity. Some in the media have suggested that because Libby did not discuss former CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity with Novak -- the first journalist to report she worked at the CIA -- he is not technically responsible for the leak. But such claims ignore the fact that Libby discussed Plame's CIA employment with then-New York Times reporter Judith Miller on several occasions prior to the publication of Novak's column naming Plame as a CIA operative.

Libby merely "left out some facts." Some media outlets -- such as The Washington Post -- have suggested that FBI agent Deborah Bond testified at the trial that Libby simply "left out some facts" when he was interviewed by her in 2003. Specifically, the Post asserted that Bond said Libby "did not acknowledge disclosing the identity of undercover CIA officer Valerie Plame to reporters." In fact, Bond testified that Libby actually denied having leaked Plame's identity or having had any knowledge of her -- this despite the fact that two reporters had already testified that he .......

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"Being the best doesn't mean you always win. It just means you win more than anyone else".. tweet from Kurt Warner to Tom Brady.

Fogbuster

Except that the Dems started the machine in motion with Watergate. A harmless break-in, done even with noble intentions, and the piranhas were set loose. The left thought they had gotten over on Nixon in particular and America in general, but found out the story didn't -- will never -- stop until the situation is fully cleaned up, 100%. America is not just any nation. It has a higher purpose.

That meant Bill Clinton, even with his glamorous approval ratings, would not be allowed to sully the nation by his selfish panderings. Yeah, Bill's bj from Monica (and all the rest) was about on par of seriousness as Howard Hunt, Gordon Liddy and the Cuban crew: wire-tapping and bugging a loose cannon candidate in McGovern.

Tits for tats until all is good. It will continue as long as necessary.

You still don't get it??



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3 to be 4

ok, even I have to stop and say to that, WTF??????

Fogbuster

OK, a few deep breaths now. In.... out...... in ..... out..... breathe....... in....... breathe......... out.


The bit came from MSNBC!! Hello?! Drudge was the finder, not the maker.




Have a good 'un.


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Fogbuster

Ah, Grasshopper, you will see. You will see. Someday.



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Fogbuster

Netscape news is reporting the headline that Bush "won't pardon Libby". Actually, what Tony Snow said was, "not ruled out, but not right now."

Harry Reid, of course, wants his full pound of flesh, while the Wall Street Journal is "thundering" that the time to pardon is *NOW*.

I say that W will wait until the Dems inevitably get into one of their traditional cat fights among themselves -- kind of like Hamas and Fatah among the Palestinians -- and quietly open the cell door.

What? Clinton can pardon dozens, including Marc Rich, but Bush cannot??!!

He can. Tits for tats.


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